UFO Part 1 of 16 (FBI Vault file)

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UFO
SECTION 1
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[FBI stamp: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE, AUG 7 1947, SAN FRANCISCO, ROUTED TO ...]
FROM "THE OREGONIAN" - Thursday, July 3, 1947

PILOT RECALLS SEEING DISCS.

Dick Rankin Tells Of Odd Aircraft.

More reports of "flying flapjacks" turned up Wednesday, one from no less than Dick Rankin, brother of the late Tex Rankin, and himself an experienced pilot of more than 7000 hours' flying time.
     Rankin, who is recovering from an old back injury received in an automobile accident, came to Portland over the weekend to spend the summer. He saw the "silver saucers" over Bakersfield, Cal., June 12 [?], while lying on the lawn sun bathing, he told The Oregonian.
     "I hesitated to say much about them," Rankin said, "until I noticed all the hullabaloo in the papers. I puzzled over their strange shape for a while and finally concluded that they were the navy's new XF5U-1 flying flapjacks, which are thin and round, with twin propellers and stubby tail."

ONLY ONE XF5U-1 BUILT.

     The navy and the manufacturer have announced officially that only one such machine was built and that it never left Connecticut.
     "These planes were flying high, maybe 8000 feet, and fairly fast, about 300 or 400 miles an hour. I first counted ten of them in formation going north. About 2:15 P.M. they returned on the reverse course, headed south, but there were only seven in the formation.
     "They were not weaving or bobbing in formation; I couldn't make out the number or location of their propellers and couldn't distinguish any wings or tail. They appeared almost round. They looked like pictures of the navy's flying flapjack," Rankin said.
     Rankin, who plans to spend the summer here at 334 S. W. Simpson St. [?], is now able to resume a little flying for fun, but not commercially, he said. He now operates a string of auto courts, spending the winters at Palm Springs.

TWO DESCRIPTIONS CHECK.

     Rankin's description of the mysterious aerial objects agrees with that of Kenneth Arnold, Boise, Idaho, business man, who first reported them over the state of Washington, except that Arnold clocked them at an estimated 1200 miles an hour.
     Other reports came Wednesday from Astoria. Chuck Hayes [?], patient in St. Mary's hospital there, said he saw two of the discs Monday flying southwest at a rapid speed and that they vanished behind the hills.
     Mrs. Earl Reade [?], Fort Stevens, said she saw a disc traveling north over Fort Stevens Tuesday noon, and that other observers saw the same object.
     The army at Fort Stevens and the coast guard at nearby Point Adams did not see the discs.
     The report of a Centralia, Wash., man Wednesday coincided in matter of time with the original report made by Arnold. Sidney D. Gallagher of Centralia said he saw nine aluminum-hued objects flying north at 2 P.M. June 24. He was working 11 miles southwest of Mineral, Wash., at the time.
[handwritten marginal mark at lower left; stamp "COPY" at lower right; CONFIDENTIAL at bottom partly obscured]

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[top of page obscured; handwritten "b6" marginal mark, large redaction block mid-page]

Washington I realized that the articles that I saw were probably the same thing. I was still reluctant to mention this to anyone thinking that they would probably say that I was crazy. After some time I mentioned the incident to the [redacted] of the "Oregonian", a Portland, Oregon newspaper. At this time I was in Portland for the remainder of the summer. The results of the conversation with the [redacted] of the paper is put forth in the accompanying newspaper article.

     I fully realize that this is a broad statement in view of the fact that there has been so much publicity [illegible] put forth in various newspapers of the country. I am of sound mind in every respect and I am firmly convinced that the articles I saw are actually some sort of flying machines although I cannot say from where they came or to where they were going. I say what I have said with no idea of publicity or personal gain.

[redacted]
[handwritten: b6]

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[stamp: PORTLAND, ... 30 July 1947]

On 30 July 1947 [redacted]
Portland, Oregon was interviewed by this agent and stated as substance as follows:

     My name is [redacted]. I am 47 [?] years old and have flown since I was nineteen years old. I first soloed in an aircraft in 1919. I have flown over all the western parts of the United States many times and have mapped all of the western part of the United States during the years before the war. Later [?] for the US Forest Service. I am familiar with almost every part of the western United States. During a great part of my life I have done stunt flying for air shows and various other types of aeronautical exhibitions. My brother was [redacted] who was quite well known in both civilian and military flying circles for many years before his death and during the late war ran thousands of flying cadets through primary training schools owned and operated by him. To date I have accomplished 7000 hours in the air as pilot of both civilian and military aircraft. I am well acquainted with most articles that one would see in the air and I feel that I am well qualified to say when I see articles flying through the air, although I would not attempt to say that I am infallible and state that I could definitely identify every object that might be flying through the air. The following is an account of what I saw on 14 June 1947 from the yard of my home at [redacted] Bakersfield, California.

     At approximately 1200 noon on the 14 of June I was lying in the front yard of my home. There was a lad mowing the lawn at the time. I looked up into the sky and saw ten articles flying from the South to the North at what I would judge to be 8500 ft. The objects were flying at approximately what I would judge to be 350 miles per hour. As I have stated before, I have done quite a lot of map work for the US Forest Service. I distinctly remember that at the time I saw the articles I mentioned it to the lad who was mowing the lawn at the time. I told the lad that the objects were in all probability some sort of Army or Navy test planes from the nearby test centers on the deserts of Southern California. Having quite a knowledge of aircraft in general I attempted to explain to the lad mowing the lawn that the objects were probably on some sort of training mission for either the Army or Navy. At that time I did not give the slightest thought to anything but that the objects were some sort of test ship for the Government services. The objects resembled the pictures that I have seen of the XF5U-1, the so called "Flapjack" that the Navy is testing. After the objects disappeared I proceeded into the house and had my noon meal. At approximately 1415 I went back into the yard to sit and lie in the shade. At this time the objects appeared going from North to South, although this time there were only seven of the articles. When I first saw the original ten objects they were flying in a "V" formation with one object seemingly straggling in the rear of the formation. When the objects appeared the second time they were still in the "V" formation although there was only seven of the objects at this time. I remember at this time that I told the lad, who was still working on the lawn, that probably three of the objects had proceeded back to their base on a different course. I actually thought that this was the case, that the other three objects had probably gone back to their base on the other side of the mountains from Bakersfield. A week or so later when I read of [redacted] that he had seen articles flying through the air over the Cascade mountains
[stamp: AUG 7 1947 ... SAN FRANCISCO]
[handwritten marginal marks at right; redaction blocks at several places]

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HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
Intelligence
Hamilton Field, California

4AFDA                                                    4 August 1947
333.5 ID

SUBJECT: Investigation of "Flying Discs"

TO:     Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Dept of Justice, Suite 426,
        111 Sutter Street, San Francisco 4, California.

     Inclosed herewith is information copy of MOIC and newspaper clipping re subject.

                                        WILLIAM R. GRAHAM
2 Incls:                                Major, Air Corps
1. MOIC Sorensen 7 Jul 47.              Deputy AC of S, A-2
2. Newspaper clipping dtd
   3 Jul 47.

[stamp: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE, AUG 7 1947, SAN FRANCISCO, ROUTED TO]

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From the Oregon Journal - continued.

MORE SEEN LATER.

     Several late flights of objects over Portland were reported Friday afternoon. L. A. Evans, 3433 SW Macadam avenue, said he saw three fly east across the Willamette river near the Ross Island bridge about 2 p.m.
     The objects did not appear high, he said, and were traveling so fast that, appearing in the west, they were out of sight in the east in two to four seconds. He said they resembled metallic disks glinting in the sunlight.
     Later, he said, he and neighbors saw a single disk-like object flying north far away and very high.
     At 4:30 p.m., Mrs. Lawrence J. Hayward, 5124 NE 21st Avenue, reported sighting a disk "like a new dime flippin' around" in the air over the Sandy district. She said it seemed to be moving slowly.

PAPER RECOVERED.

     Thomas J. Dwyer, 1232 NE 59th Avenue, said he sighted two white or silver objects flying southeast high over Portland a few minutes before 5 p.m. He reported another, headed northeast, over his home at 6:30 p.m.
     C. J. Jagie [?], Tigard, reported that four disks flew past Mount Jefferson at about 11 a.m. while he was driving near Redmond.
     Sherman Cook, 2000 [?] 60th avenue, recovered from Rose City golf course a piece of paper he said had fallen from a great height in the sky. Time of its fall coincided with some of the reports of flying disks. [The paper, of low quality, measured 25 x 36 inches.]

SILVERED DISKS, DROPPED BY PLANE.

     EUGENE, July 5 (AP) - A Eugene railroad cashier said Friday he saw silvered disks being dropped out of a light airplane flying over this city.
     S. R. Smith, Rt. 2, Eugene, an assistant cashier for the Southern Pacific railroad, said he was driving on a Eugene street when --

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FROM THE OREGON JOURNAL - 5 July 1947   Portland, Ore.

AIRLINES CREW CONFIRMS REPORTS OF FLYING DISKS; FIVE SPOTTED.

     Circumstantial reports of flying disks in the sky Friday came from the crew of a United Airlines plane over Boise, Idaho, and a coast guardsman near Seattle, as well as from Portland area police and citizens.
     E. J. Smith, captain of the airliner, told United Press that he sighted five "somethings" which were "thin and smooth on the bottom and rough appearing on top." The objects appeared against the sunset shortly after the plane took off at 8:04 p.m., he said.
     "We saw them clearly," he reported. "We followed them in a north-westerly direction for about 45 miles. Finally the objects disappeared. We were unable to tell whether they outsped us or disintegrated."

NOT AIRCRAFT.

     "We can't say whether they were saucer-like, oval or anything else," the captain said, "but whatever they were, they were not another aircraft, nor were they smoke or clouds."
     In Seattle, Coast Guardsman Frank Ryman, 27, reported to United Press that he snapped a picture from the front porch of his home which showed a "white saucer" flying over the north end of Lake Washington.
     Acme News Pictures, New York City, said a 7x9 inch print of the photograph showed two tiny dots, one of which was a flaw in the print.
     Don Metcalfe, 19, Oaks Amusement park employe, reported that he saw several objects "like spinning disks" in the sky Friday. He said several picnickers, including a woman pilot noticed them.
     In Vancouver, Wash., Sheriff's Deputies John Sullivan, Clarence McKay and Fred Knives [?] heard the Portland police radio broadcast and ran out of the sheriff's office to look at the sky. Over Portland, three to five miles away, Sullivan said, they saw 20 to 30 objects "like a flight of geese." They heard a low humming sound.

OTHERS DOUBTFUL.

     Col. B. R. Dodson, commander of the Oregon national guard, made an inspection of this area from the air after the disks were reported here. He said he saw nothing "suspicious."
     Only known military airplanes in the air at the time of the reports were 23 B-29 bombers near Astoria.
     Despite all the reports, at least two persons remained unconvinced of the existence of the disks. Al P. Sanford, Holgate storage, gave his opinion that the objects were cottonwood blossoms.
     Burl Holleah [?], 38, of 6604 N. Burrage avenue, telephoned the Journal to berate the newspapers for perpetuating a hoax. He said he saw objects in the sky about a minute after an airplane passed over his house. To him the objects looked like bits of aluminum foil, perhaps cigarette wrappers.
[CONFIDENTIAL at bottom, obscured]

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HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
Intelligence
Hamilton Field, California

4AFDA                                                    4 August 1947
333.5 ID

SUBJECT: Investigation of "Flying Discs"

TO:     Special Agent in Charge, U. S. Department of Justice, Suite 426,
        111 Sutter Street, San Francisco, California.

     Forwarded herewith is information copy of statement and newspaper clipping re subject.

                                        WILLIAM R. GRAHAM
Incls:                                  Major, Air Corps
1. Statement of [redacted]              Deputy AC of S, A-2
   dtd 30 Jul 47.
2. Newspaper clipping,
   dtd 5 Jul 47.

[handwritten: b6]
[stamp: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE, AUG 7 1947, SAN FRANCISCO, ROUTED TO]
[CONFIDENTIAL at top and bottom, partly obscured]

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HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
Intelligence
Hamilton Field, California

4AFDA                                                    [illegible] August 1947
333.5 ID

SUBJECT: Investigation of "Flying Discs"

TO:     Special Agent in Charge, FBI, U. S. Dept. of Justice, Suite 426,
        111 Sutter Street, San Francisco 4, California.

     Attached MOIC is forwarded for your information.

                                        [signature]
                                        WILLIAM R. GRAHAM
1 Incl:                                 Major, Air Corps
MOIC Aldrich 14 Jul 47                  Deputy AC of S, A-2

[stamp: FEDERAL B[UREAU OF INVESTIGATION], AUG 8 [?] 1947]

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FROM THE OREGON JOURNAL - 5 July 1947, Portland, Ore.

"PROWL CARS SPOT DISKS IN SKY HERE"

     Whatever they are, there are some disk-like objects flying around in the sky.
     Or else eight Portland area policemen and deputy sheriffs who sighted the objects Friday, numerous private citizens, the crew of a United Air Lines plane over Boise, Idaho, and a coastguardsman who claims to have photographed one near Seattle, are all wrong.
     In Portland the alert was sounded over police radio at 1:06 p.m. Friday, after the East Side station received a score of calls that the disks were overhead. Within seconds, two prowl cars reported spotting the mystery craft.

FLASHES SEEN - NOISE LACKING.

     First to report in were Patrolmen Walter Lasey [?] and Robert Ellis in Car No. 82, who stopped near Lake Park. Both World War II veterans and civilian pilots, they sighted three of the objects within 30 seconds traveling at great height and speed over the park. They reported they heard no engine noises but saw flashes. The objects seemed erratic and changed direction of flight. The patrolmen agreed that without knowledge of the size of the objects it would be impossible to judge their speed or altitude.
     Patrolman Earl Patterson in car No. 33 [?] stopped at SE 82d avenue and Foster road to look eastward from where the disks were reported. Telephone calls located them coming out of the sun. He saw nothing, but a few seconds later observed one coming out of the west and heading southwest. The craft seemed to be aluminum or very bright white and didn't flash or reflect light, he said.

OBJECTS UNIDENTIFIED.

     A former aircorps veteran, he said the object was unlike any plane he'd ever seen. He thought it appeared radio-controlled because the disk could change direction at a 90-degree angle without difficulty.
     Members of the harbor patrol at the foot of NW Irving street stopped out when they heard the all-car alert. Capt. K. A. Prehn, Harbor Pilot, A. [?] Austed and Patrolman K. G. Hoff all saw the objects and said they appeared to be going south high over the Globe mills at terrific speed. Capt. Prehn said the flashes kept them from ascertaining whether there were three or six.
     "The disks would oscillate and sometimes we would see a full disk, then a half-moon shape, then nothing at all," he reported. "The objects looked more like a shiny chromium hub cap off a car which wobbled, disappeared and reappeared."
     There was a plane in the sky at the time, but all were emphatic that the disks were not planes.
[stamp: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, U.S. DEPT. OF JUSTICE, AUG 7 1947, SAN FRANCISCO, ROUTED TO]

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UNEXPLAINED FLYING DISCS
7 July 1947

MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:

     1. At 1305 [?] 4 July 1947, a radio alert was issued via the Portland City Police Radio, advising all cars and listeners that some fast flying objects were in the air over Portland and vicinity. Upon contacting the radio dispatcher, this agent was advised that Kenneth A. McDowell, Patrolman, Portland City Police Department, residing at 916 S. E. Bush Street, Portland, Oregon, on duty at Precinct #1, Portland City Police, Southeast Morrison at 10th Avenue, had called in advising the dispatcher of the flying objects.

     2. This agent interviewed Officer McDowell who stated that at approximately 1305, 4 July 1947, he was on duty at Precinct #1, and was in the parking lot back of the Police Station, feeding the pigeons. At this time the pigeons became very excited over something and fluttered in the air all at once. Officer McDowell stated in looking around to see what had disturbed them, he saw five large discs in the air to the East of Portland, two discs flying South and three flying in an Easterly direction. Officer McDowell stated he could determine no color to the discs, but advised they were dipping in an up and down oscillating motion and were traveling at a great speed. He was unable to give an estimate of the speed or altitude of these discs as they were out of sight before any detailed observation could be made. Officer McDowell advised he notified the Police Radio who immediately broadcast an alert. Officer McDowell advised he saw no indication of any motivating force or heard any sound coming from these discs and could give no description other than round.

     3. This agent interviewed Sergeant Claude Cross, Oregon State Police Officer on duty at District Number 1 Station, Milwaukie, Oregon. Cross stated upon hearing the radio alert he went outside and upon looking in an Easterly direction he saw three discs following each other at an undetermined altitude and at a terrific speed, traveling in a Northwesterly direction. Cross advised he noticed a whitish brown glint to these objects as the sun reflected from them. Cross was unable to give any other description nor could he judge the objects speed or altitude. No sound was made by the objects.

     4. This agent interviewed Earl W. Patterson, Patrolman, Portland City Police Department, and residing at 124 Southeast 13th Avenue, Portland, Oregon. Patterson advised he was a former Air Corps pilot during the war. He stated that the time the radio alert sounded, he was at Southeast 82nd and Foster Road, Portland, and upon getting out of his car he saw one disc flying in a Southwesterly direction over Portland. Patterson advised this disc was aluminum in color, left no vapor trail or smoke trail and was traveling at a terrific speed, faster than he has ever seen any flying object before. Patterson further advised, although not knowing the exact size of the object, it is difficult to determine the altitude, the estimates of altitude at 30,000 feet.
     Patterson further advised the flying disc was definitely some type of craft but he could not give any further description as the speed made observation difficult. He heard no sound emitted by the flying object.

Keith A. Sorensen, SA/4 CIC, Sixth Army
[stamp: SAN FRANCISCO ... ROUTED TO; CONFIDENTIAL at bottom partly obscured]

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[CONFIDENTIAL at top, partly obscured]
[two photographs mounted on a sheet; upper photo is a dark smudge-like object against a mottled sky, labelled "EXHIBIT I" (typed, degraded); lower photo shows a small dark elongated wedge-shaped object against a light sky, labelled "EXHIBIT II"]
[CONFIDENTIAL crossed out beneath the photos]
[handwritten at bottom left: "EXHIBIT #1 (?)" / illegible]

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Auguet 5, 1947
Ornatk, Nébraska
Dear
I viah to acbowiedge etipt f your letter poet—
urked July IO, 1947, together with Ite enclosure,
Inumuch as the Infomation which you furni8hed is
of interest to the Far Department I have taken the liberty of
furni8hinc it to that agency for their consideration,
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
anC0RDBD
62-93894

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Cffce MemKbndum •
• Dl„nmoa,
UNITED S
-O -S GOVERNMENT
DATE; Augugt 12, 1947
FROM
SUBJECT:
4.
MILWAVÄ
DISCS
SABOIAGX
Rderæce is Nde to Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947,
July 30, 1947, Section (B), which advises that All reorts
concerning flying dlSCB •hou.lå be Investigatd by field offices.
Prior to the receipt of these Instrutions, tvo instances
vere cal to the attation of this office concerning flying d..iacs.
One roort vas received July 7, 1947, the details of which are get
forth in Milwaukee letter to the Bureau dated July B, 1947,
Rnying msce or Sauces, Miscellaneous, TelQhone Cali from ur.
netcher at the Burau at B: 30 a.m., No investigation wag
concerning this report.
t 1:20 p.m.
The second r.ort was receivd by this offic
July 11, 1947,
Wisconsin, an atmiiary of the
cl»rge of the Civil Air Fatrol
Amy Air Forces. On that occasion —calling
Black Tails, Wisconsin, telephonically thig office that
an object in the shape of a dec, nineteen inches in d.iametæ• had been
fbuna July IO, 1947, by one —tty deetrician on the Jackson
County fairgrounds, black Rimer Fai 1B, Wisconsin, about 3:30 p.m.
Ihe disc might be made of a substaice stch as cardboard covered a
silver airplane dope naterial. me contraption a eall vooaen tail
like a rudde in the back inside of •the disc is what appears to be
an RCA photo—elætric cell or tube. Aim inside the disc 1B a little
electric motor with a shaft running to the center of the At one
Of the Shaft a vay
opinion that contraption might possibly have bea made by eome Juvenile.
he desired to return the contraption to
Milwaukee and eventually turn it over to the Army Air Torces, but trat
the finder, wanted to get some publicity oz his
find and wanted it rettuad to him.
This information vas tel Qhonicaily ealiea to the attention
of hBiBtant Director D, M. LADD of the Bureau on July i 1, 1947.
Subsequatly, SAC H. X. JOBI(SON tel Qhonea Colonel —
in of Counter Intelligence, Fitth Army, Chican AC of S G—2
Headquarters Fifth Amy, Hyae Park Avenue, Chicago, Illinois,
he would contact
f Black River Tails, Wisconsin.
No further investiætion was conducted thi'
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Director
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fhe above constitutes the only two in which
thlg office was contactd conc erning flying diecs. Unless contrary
an.wy10AB are r eel vd
the sureau, this office does not
oat aplate taking any mrther action in connection *lth the above
two cages, 'but vill fully all future r.orte concerning
lying discs,
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FBI PORTLAND
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FLYING DISCS,
BUREAU Of
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SEEING A MYSIERIOUS OBJECT
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BE INTERVIEWED,
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END
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BOBBITT
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ON TWO OCASIONS THE EVENING OF AUGUST SIXTH
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Offce
FROU : J.
SUBJB
MemCundum ,
. Ladd
F'. CONTiO
UNITED SOTES GOVERNMENT
DATE:
There is attached hereto a letter roc$ved from the cc.•ptioned
Individual postmzrked Jul \ 12 19117, concernin-Y "flying saucers.
Thera is also attached a letter of acknowledgement to
tocether with a letter to the Departnent for approva .
It is reco•••. nended the letter to the War Department. be
forwarded to the Liaison Section for trans,'littal to that agency.
Attachments
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RECORDED
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LT. COL.'
FLYING DISKS, SECURITY MATTER-X.
G? , SAN FRANCISCO, AUVISEO TODAY HE HAS NO
ANO THAT OUR SEATTLE OFFICE I s IN POSSESSION or ALL IUFOR.S AT ION
BY HIX', AND IS HANOI-ING THE MATT
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'ined in the above message is to be disseminated
t is suggested that it be suitably paraphrased in
e Bureau' B coding systems.

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ROBIN
O _ 6751
ROLL
San D3.cgo, Call fomia, Jyly B, 1947 -
- OF
ICDRANDUM iB rogpectfully addressed to cortain scientiBts of distinction
to important aeronautical and military authorities, to a numbor of public officials
and to a fow publications •
me niter hae little oqoctatlon that anything of Import will be
by thie e,é5ture, The moro fact that the data heroin were obtained
guporncrmal moans is probably sufficient to Insure its disregard by nearly all the
persons adhoesod; neverthcioss it goemg a public duty to b.aako it available, (The
preeent writor has Beveral university degrees and nag fomorly a university depart-
ment head) ,
A very Bers oug Bituation my develop at any timo Üith regard to the *flying
If one of thoso ula be attacked, the attacking plane 7111 almost cor-
eaueerg. "
tainly be destroyed. In tho public mind this might croatc near panic and internat-
tonal suspicion, The princlpaz data concerning these craft Is not: at hand and muet
be offered, no REtter how fantastic and unintelligiblo it may to minds not
proviously ingtructoa In thinking of thig type.
I,
2,
3.
5,
6,
9,
Part of the dieka ca'rry cr07B, othors are undor raoto control.
Their m.ission iB peacofui, The visitors contcaplate 80ttiing on this plano
visitorß aro but much larger In gize.
Thoy aro NOT excarnate earth pooplo, but como from thclr world,
They do NOT come from any "planet" as vo uso th3 word, but from an othorio
planet filch interponetratos -.11 th our own end iB not perceptible tc us.
The bodles of the visitors, ana the craft also, automatically '*materialize
on entoring the vibratory ratc of our dcnso (Cp. "apports.
me diBk8 possess a type of radiant energy, or a ray, which Kill oasiiy
disintegrato any attacking ship. Thoy reantor the otheric at fill, and
BO simply disappear from our vision, without trace.
.Ne region from Thich they is NOT the Raetral plane", but corros -
ponde to the or Tales, Students of 0B0teric matters 7111 understand
theee termg,
can bo by radar, If
Thoy probably cannot bo reqchod by radio, but pr
a eiC1al 8Y8tem can be dovlsea for that ( a azatu .
Wo give Inforrnatlon and. verning, and can do no moro. bo
reatod with every kindness. tunicse the diBkB aro , a a4tAdti#
2 with Which our culturo and eclenco are incapable of •Y r,g, A hoavy rospon.,l >il-
regtB upon tho foy; In authority Mho able to u.nåeretana—-s
L)
C Addendum: The a r 2 oval Shupe, f I
oval with a heat-reek ting métal or a noy not yet k. •
1
ogct, Gd*fcrnla,
the f rout contain 3 the controls; the mi 4 i] e r,cr•
It beratory; tho rear eontaihs araæent, *Loh i gt3 essentially of a zoa•orf'..ll re
enerry euparJ.tL.•.r•, •perhaps a z

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Offce Mem'undunø ,
UNITED SLOES GOVERNMENT
TO
M
SUBJECT
Director, FBI
SAC Norfolk
DISS
Re Bureau Bulletin No,
Seriee 1947, whenin Information
t lying discs,
There 18 enclosed with
DATE: August 8, 1947
42, dated July 30, 1907,
get forth pertaining to
this letter a
9.
fNm the "Norfolk Ledger—Diepatch", dated Jt.l.ly 9, 191+7,
The photograph appearing on thia clipping alleged to represent
a flying disc which observed by BILLEURR.Q{TINE, a Norfolk
school boy, was eucceuful in photographing the ob$ect with
hie small cuera,
BILLY was interviewed on August 8, 1947 by Special
Agent (A) —at tine BILLY informed the
original negative wag given by him to a ur, BROBN of the Photo
Service, who In t'.nrn furnished the negative to the
Intemational Newg Service. BILLY advlged he an agee—
with Mr. BROW whereby the latter will Bhare equüy in any
profite derived -from use of the negative by comercial firms
•or Ae of Auguet 8, 1947 BILLY notrceived any
remuneration for the use of thie negative.
He t.r•bt he was Bitting on the front porch
of hie apartaent which 18 located on the third floor at 410 West
14th Street, Norfolk, Virginia, around noontime on Ju.ly 8, 19147,
He kBd read numerou newspaper articles pertaining to flying discs
and decided to elt on his front porch in the hopes of geeing one
and attempting to photograph it. On Ju-ly 8, 191+7 BILLY observed
a large, black object moving mpidly thr014h proceeding frm
the southwest to a northeast direction. He said the black object
followed by two obåects which also proceeded In the
ears direction, BLIX e)QIained tmt the objecte were moving at
a very fast speed which appeared to him to be much faster than
the speed of airplane, and tmt the objecte appeared
to extranely high, He eald that they were much higher thul
average plane trave18 the City of Norfolk and appeared to be
above tk•z clouds, and that z white mist folioæd each of the three
obåects, BILLY was unable to state what the black objects repre-
sented, but adm.itted tYBt they coüd ,uve been large balloons, He
indicated that he observed toy ballooag flying through
air, but that definitely these were not the toy type balloons,
He •aid tkbt he firet observed the obåects they
a great dietance from him tmt it was not neceesary that
hie head in order to gee trpm from hie porch on the third
of apartoent build.lng, He Imediately tumed arotmd
OPIF,.S
t,uv is
ROEX.FD

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C)
Letter to Director, FBI
FLYING DISS
A st 8, 191+7
O
his camera estimated it took him appro)dntely tenty to th.irty
seconds, at which time the discs were almst directly over hå8 apart—
and it was necessary that he stoop and look up almost perpen—
dleular in order to obtain the photograph, which accoute for the
porch railing being shovn in the clipping. BILLY Pinted
out that the day on which he took the picture, the weather was hazy
and eomewhat cloudy and tyære wag a slight breeze blowing from the
southwest in the general direction of the northeast, which the
direction traveled by the black which he photographed.
Inasmuch ae the Army authorities in tkE Tidewater Area
of Vir4n1a are cognizant of ule above information, no further investi—
gatlon be cmducted by this office In this n*tter.
&zclosure.
TJC:1ab
62-182
-2-

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.i{orfc i k ZTH.:lgcr—
flying Disc 'Bigger Than Automobile' Photographed
by YouftMho Is Amazed Because No One Else Say@lt
pers hadn't alrcadv taken 'a Bic- the thing was about 5.000 feet,
GEORGE
as lots bigger
The flying disc
ban an automobile ' Rnd 13..vear•
Turrentine> Of 410 West
"ourtecnth .St -under-
whv almost. everybody in
Vnrfoik didn't see it.
In fact, when he came •to the
Ledger-Disha tch with a photograph
h:• had taken Of the object, he
w•anted tn know whv the newgna.
f "1 thought your' photo-
n•aphers were fast," he a re-
seconds later didn't look any.
thing like saucers:
Looked I,'ke Football
Thc bov stuck tu his foot bali
coin parison, explaining that
object •was sort ef rounded. more
oval than disc.like, and that though
it wobbled in its northeastward
flight it was traveling very rapidly,
about 600 miles an hour.
He mre=sf'd that_ the Alti tun Ot
just below the clouds. In color it
was '*gray, almost black."
and
looked. like a "burned crisp," or
; »orter.
( Editor's
Note: Although thc
hnd nu•n.v -re•
ports of dixeg ind in
event days. no ot Iter re•
pnrted geeins•: the object which Tur•
rentlnc ed.)
Bill said hc had done
ITowcver.
feét. Inovlnq hlrnsclf ghorlly
on his front. porell and saw
iarge gray objcel.
'h•ocking
"ld spinning: like a football" and
fronl thc kouthwe*-
had fust rclurned from Sum,
achool classcs Bt Maury. he
•aid. und with ali thc talk about
had gone out.
k. ing saucers,"
, his camcra to sea It he cou.fld
a nyth Ing.
•1 • wh',•• they call thmn
ucors.i'
hc .said. "The big
i look a mclure of and the two
ll.l.le ones that came behind il H
mavbe a rock or stone. Thc edges
*glittered. he said* and 8eemed to be
frallihg dust. Neither It nor the
two which followed made any
sou nd.
Bill gald
he wasn•t very RUE'*
nriscd when ho Ruw 11M' object,
but "ahnost killed get•ting
shotg of it with hig "mere, set at
l/ 100th of a second:
Ile callcd hls l&year-old Bigter,
'NORFOLK BOY AND PHOTO OF IMSC—Bill Turrentine. • 13,
tells Ledger-DiNpaich reporter George. Herbert (Icfi) of •
clrcurnRtance« "'h leh enabled
(o take the photograph at fi
right of a flying dixe. Hotvever. (he boy gaill the object
looked and nu»ved Inorp Ilke a football. hing rounded end oval. rath'
thRn disc-like. Bill look this picture fronu the porch or hix hotn«•. i
410 Wegt Fourteenth ß(rcet between 11 0'clock and noon Tuesda
using an old eutnernt "*Ich. the ghutler set at I/ SOOth of Recon".
ones, ull mov}ng at about 000 mile.* an hour and he guessed they
Rbatlt 5,000 feet high, Just beQiv the clouds, The photograph reprotll
ed here jn xn enlnrgrntent by Photo Crnftxn»en. Jn
ground of young './'orrrmtine'x pictilre ig tho porch rail of hlg I.onn•.
enlargement made by Photo Crafts.
men.
Photo experi* of this 'firm are
Josephine, to come and look, hut convinced that the boy dld R fine
the old cuunera he was
apparentEy she didn't believe hiln,
As lhe ••nying foo(bali" passed
ovcr, Bill said he took three 8bots
of 51, but when hc hurriedly
oped the fihn, after legging it to
Olney Road for a vial of developer,
only one ncgative came out welk
enough for reproduction.
He showed a reporter n contact
print hc had made himself. and
thc nlclut•e reproduced here Is nn
'oh with
L181ng. Having closely cxamlned
the negative. they said the only
flaw was in One kind of film, which
nprhans didn't ht•4nø out enough
detail. 'They pointed out, howevär,
that this wasn't really a flaw, in
view of the fact that Bill's pheto•
graph, with the comparison afe
forded by Lhe front rail and
the trecx, was certainly the best
one täken since the mysterious

Page 26

U. S. OF J'JSIICF
TEL TYPE
WAS 1<CTONdeFROM NEWARK
out'ir.rtm
r •uinn Tamm....
5-36 PM EDST
IREC TOR
URGENT
FLYING DISC REPORTED AT HACKENSACK,
INFORMATION RECEIVED THAT
SEVEN , MISC.
AGE TWENTY,
NJ •AUGUST THREE, NIN
HACKENSACK AND
FT, DIX, NJ ON LATE AFTERNOON AUGUST THIRD LAST SIGHTED
FROM GROUND OBJECT DESCRIBED AS FLYiNG DISC.
CLAIMED IT WAS
TWO HUNDRED YDS, IN A1
NEITHER A KITE NOR
INQUIR
ENSACK PD.
MC KEE
$fp 194
A BALL
BE
REVOLVING SLOWLY, MOVING RAPIDLY, AND
TELEPHONED INFORMATION TO HACK-
LL BE KEPT ADVISED.

Page 27

Q
05
U. OF RMICE
"WUNICATICNS SECTION
O
AUG G: 947
TE n•'PE
8-50 PM
AND SAN FRANCISCO
RE TELEPHONE CALL
Hr. Niö.b....-.-.
r.
ur. .
Mr. Mohr
Mr.
Mr. ..
Mr. Newe .
Min Gandy . .
FBI PORTLAND
ECTOR AND SACS SEATTLE
FLYING DISCS, SM DASH X,
TODAY REQUESTING TELETYPE
HHS
URGENT
FROM MR. LADD, ONE •PM
SUMMARY CONCERNING NEWSPAPER REPORTS OF
RECENT REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENe
OF ARMY OFFICIALS IN PORTLAND CONCERNING FLYING DISCS,
THE OREGONIAN, ADVISED THAT A CAPTAIN
UILLIAM L. DAVIDSON AND LT. FRANK M. BROWN OF FOURTH AAF HEADQUARTERS
SAN FRANCISCO WERE IN PORTLAND JULY TWENTYSEVEN LAST AND INTERVIEWED
N EXPERIENCED PILOT, WHO HAD REPORTED JUNE FOURTEEN
LAST SEEING A FORMATION OF TEN FLYING DISCS OVER BAKERS-
FIELD
CALIF,
ACCORDING TO
THEY HAD ALSO INTERVIEWED
FOLLOWING FOUR EXPERIENCED PILOTS WHO WERE AMONG FIRST WHO REPORTED
SEEING DISCS -
PURPOSE OF TH NTERVEWS
To
ONTACTED MAJO
INDEXED
A C RTAIN. THE,
OF WRIGHT FIELD, OHIO BY PHONE AT ALBUQUERQUE,
STIGATXON TO
GAINED THE IMPRESSION THAT THE AAF INSTITU
THIS 1
WASH! OUT THE D
REPORTS, SINCE THEY ARE EFINITELY NOT OF AAF ORIGI:
FIRST, THE PLANE IN WHICH AAF INVESTIGATORSVCAP'FAII
LT. BPLOWN WERE RIDING, CRASHED AT KELSO, WASH, AND BOTH

Page 28

O
1
PAG Two
THE WRECKAGE WAS SCREENED BY AAF INTELLIGENCE FROM
WERE KILLED.
THE TACOMA NEWS TRIBUNE AND THROUGH THEI THE UNITED
MCCHORD FIELD.
PRESS PUT OUT A STORY THE PLANE WAS CARRYING PARTS OF A DISC WHICH
TACOMA, WN,
HAD STRUCK A BOAT OWNED BY HAROLD DAHL AND FRED CRISMAN
ADVISED THAT TODAYS ISSUE OF THE OREGONIAN CARRIES A UP STOR
STATING THAT DAHL
TACOMA SLAG MILL,
DENIES SAYING THE METAL FRAGMENTS HE FURNISHED WERE
e Urat.:C TUt-M •rn ot'
NO AAF INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL AVAILABLE PORTLAND,
NO RECENT SUBSTANTIVE REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS IN THE PORTLAND AREA.
SEATTLE VERIFY AT MCCHORD FIELD AND SAN FRANCISCO VERIFY
HDQRTS, SF, SUBMITTING TELETYPE SUMMARIES •ro THE BUREAU,
INVESTIGATION PORTLAND.
BOBBITT
END AND ACK
AT AAF
NO FURTHER
0157AM 0K
0K FBI
FBI WA
KLS
y.
(1
s
SF
0K FBI SF NCW
DVIMSC
4

Page 29

Offce Memcwndum ,
D, u. IADD
UNITED GOVERNMENT
DATE: Augast 6, 1947
to
nou
SUDJBCt:
Ide uterxlt
G SAUCERS
Special
Colorel
f the Laison Section contacted
Amy Air Forces
about an appeared in the Cast
stating in substarze trBt an airplane carrying recovered flying saucers
cN9hed In route from Portlard, ONgon, to los A'ngeles, Äifornia.
ad"'ised that the only inforÄti0D
that has been y Headquarters of Amy Air Fa•ces Is that a
CIC of the 4e•a Air ForceX kbadqtzrters, Eiiiton Field, San Framlsco,
Tolson
Rosen
Tracy
Quinn
Tele, Room
oa»ay
was killed In an airplane crash. The Headqtzrters of the Air Forces have been )
WY
irdicated that he
advised he •as on a top eecmt nission,
urder the im that the CIC Agent was either on route to or from an
interview Yd th
the flying saucers.
ho is ors of the ildividuals who firet saw ore of
RpmRDF,D
iVoruAtion
Air FO
m th"tÄ4ib
and will mcexve until the Nport is receive
sug*st.ed FNREisco Field Offi.& contact Coloæl
ibadquartars 4th Air ForceÄ, Hamilton Field, mncisco, who
urdoubte41y would be able to furnish details Thich-
at tine by üe Headquarters of the Air Foxves.
pointed out t'o— however, that it was his belief tazt no flying
saucers have been recoveNd
ore of æ,he flying sauEers,
had rted see
S
1.

Page 30

Auguzt 5, 1947
Director of
War Department Oeneral Staff
Pentagon
-..W88hington 25, m c.
Bl SPEC
L ESSE.BER
Attention t Colone
'Joh Edgar Hoover
Subsect:
— Director, Federal Bureau oc Investigation
There are attached hemto copies of a letter received from the
above—captioned individual concerning Rflying discs. n
letter hag been ud he has been
adviged that cop-es of his lotter have been turnißhod to you for ypuÉ
tion.
Attac
. Bieho e
. koeen
Tracy
Car •on
. Hendon
Qu Inn
K _ 'B OaMy
vJM,MUNlCATlONS SECTION
AUG 7 194(
fEOERAk ON

Page 31

Invoice of Contents from
BUREAU OF INVESTIGATI' .
WASHINGTON, D. C.
Date References
Consigne
onti Carolina •
List of Contents
Pouered Soap Stone,
REGISTEH
M A ! LED 7
SEP 13 1947 P.M,
s PE -
Room, place date of •hipment and regi•try number; Shipping Room, •ho
date of t is invoice; then return it to per •on whose name ia cheeked in eolumn •t
bag been in •tialled, invoice chou id be placed •in admini'trntive file
22 - fi3%C///-

Page 32

"aukesha, Wis.
1
C)
At tn ,
Federal Bur—of Investigation
Gentleme
Recently I have heard and read about reports of disc—shaped aircraft
or whatever they are, in our western regione. They reminded me of a nearly
forgotten incident in Cemnany, after the war. I report this to you because
I feel this may be of international scope.
My buddy and I went on pass to see a friend of his. One evening the
three of us were driving alone some back roads when I Bighted a strange
looking object in the sky from eight to ten miles to our front and approx-
imatly 5,000 feet high.
I immediatly stopped the jeep for a better look. Ehe object rapidly
came toward us, descénding Blowiy. About a mile away it stopped it t B
horizontal motion but continued a BIOW oscillating descent, similar to a
descending parachute, Then suddenly it dropped in a spiral motion,
Innediatly I drove over to where it had dropped, It took almost five
minutes to reach the place but we saw nothing. After ten minutes of cruis-
ing around the area it became too dark to Bee BO we went back to town.
becauge
I am not sure my companions Baw this ait happened so quickly it could
easily uve been missed, but I described what i had seen BO vividly that
they were as excited as I wag, My impression wag that it was E, cloud
ot it WEB at risht ----
The local of this incident was approx9atayJZO north-west of
e authenticity oc this
Habberbi ehopehiem, If necessary, I will swear toe
and to the hupe of the obj ecte
6
Since ly Yo rB,
L7c

Page 33

U. D STATES DEPARTMENT OF
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION.
7, 1947
Transmit •the following message to:
SAC,
IKPORUARTS, DISC, Misc,
RÄJRTÜ AUGUST 5 UATERIAL IDT FOMARDED To FEI LABORATOz FOR J
ZANINAT10f*Btn SHOULD DE ovn To THE AIR.FO}OE mtFLLICENCE,
ROFtDae
Hosea
treey
Ctr •on
Our
Par DO
Qu f nn
3.3000 $ D
U. 8. OF ItrsTIcE
(AUG7
n 1947
COPIES DESTROYF,D TELETYPE
* 270 NOV 18 1904
60 Al.l&i 31}9411"

Page 34

Fra
Di.nctor of garm
Var
Tie hatagon
25, D. Ce
attention:
-John Edgar Hoover, Director — Federal bar•au ot IrxvegUgation
. tei•on
01'*Ln
Ladd
. rracy
Car son
Sr;uea
Farbe
Panni
k-. Quirüi
. taaee
Sub'eot
There are attached hereu cspi0B of a iettor received from the
individual concernint•-ßtiyine aaucarg.n
letter has been aaknovledged and ghe hae ren 7 C
advised that copleg of bor letter havo boon turniü:ed to you for you? con—
aidantion.
WVCtm3p.,
31941

Page 35

OBJ?.'.?-
7 1947
m 11
i, On i July 1947, C, 195ws,
Chandler, Aragor•,
Acm% otat.ed in •ubgt«cet 30 June 1947,
0910, "5T, h' •as tiyå.zz 25,000 Cu»n, Ari•ona,
• •arrafi, Re Ehd he
Ploid, •hm he gag tao murd *Soeto at
He turt.bcr •t.aLed u-at h's roacUans
turn fma Cbe ob'•cte. Re furu« one of
Ufiabl• the Re
circuiu, and' iSzht in
It saa his opa.nlm
in dimeter. In cztciuolm, "axed the 0b"".
—uld hav-•ÄvbOly hit roxLaataiy
of :out.h ot Crud Cuayon,
Lt can hit addres
r•oLnt Fort Rusc—e,
2, on i dui' 1947, CN taln C,
Chmdi«, Arizona,
by •nd In h"
had ralaw hlÄ a of moxplainabl'
ute of Loke •tated
otaW obåecU
XOP.)O foot aiUta&,
Caguan
•n 0b""' hl' broths ud •eon, Lt*, n, en b'
ænt•oted at Rq, 10th Dn»k8 Taaa tor farthe Womatlon.
REGRADED UNCUSSI"ED
ON Nov _c€-ma--
DEP CDN USAIN5uuM rut/ru
C,
$öHN
AUTH Pt. 1403 DOD 52m
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Page 36

Offce
UNITED s -OES GOVERNMENT
J Y 7, 1947
nou
SUBJB
D.M.IAD
8
F'LRTSCS
acelluteous
SAC Weeks called from New Orleans on the matter discussed in the
roison
. *ten
Rosen
Qu t nn
attached He ented to know what policy the Bureau was following
Roo—
in comection with reporte concerning these discs" *1ieh wem bei
reeaived,
I told ur. Weeke that, unleee advised to eontram he ghou.id,
case at hand, allow to nd not take Jurisdiction for the
DI, He was told the Buæau —uld be interested in being kept a dvised of develop—
mentg, and in copies of the photographs he said GQ would make of the object
round, but that he shot.üd not allow blmeelf to be Sockeyed into a position where
Investigative responsibility, if any were •tailed, n uld fail on us, Mr. Weeks said
he would eo hndle unless I called hin back inedlateiy vlth instructions for
cpecific action,
Ag you recall, r calieQ vou concemir
e foregoing,
6+-7 n
XCHth
2 OCT

Page 37

Offce Mel,Æbndum ,
TO
; DI CTOR, FBI
FROM
• SUBJECT
FLYING OBJECTS IN
UNITED GOVERNMENT
DATE: July 22, 1947
has come to the resident agency at Smta Fe,
report Qiat she has received i.nforrnation
New Mudco on several occasxons
concerning n ying objects through the air, Sane of the reports tynt gha
hae received concern light objects Been at night *Ich have allegedly been follow—
She advised that of buch objects was reported by
los ions.
works near Can Jilon, New L'e>dco, She that
othere were seen near Park View md Tierra Amarna, New Mexico e
called attention to cuppings from various newspapers
conceming "disc—like'! objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the count ,
claiL5 to be a student of radio waves u-td ray forms, and
a.rJ 7
eontends that the above mentioned objecte be missiles 8i.rni1ar to those appe
Ing over Sweden son:E tarre ago.
— has discussed the above with officials of the Atonic
ble
Energy Comission, and has written the Secreta of 'ilar other government
officials concerning her theories,
for the has advised that off cxals at Los Alamos consider
unreliable—Bnd-possibly not well balanéed mentally. She has mentaoned to
of tMs office that shi • Was- TGen a child.
On July 15, Äcame to the Santa Fe resident agency and
advised that ghe had written to WALTER m'ICHEIX, prardslng him a story in conn ct on
with the "fkv±ng discs.
The foregoing infomation is being submitted to the Bureau, inasm.ach as
has written to several government officials and Mr. W DJCHEI.L,
62-0—3594c
RECORDED 4
D(DEXEL
€.3 -37

Page 38

Offce Mel,ßandv
m
UNITED b
TES GOVERNMENT
TO
PROM
SUBJE
D. M. IADD
DATE: 7/24/47
Refenme nada to memozenö.zm to you in the above capti0Nd
datød-JuIv IO. 1947- I.rdicat.inz that krigadi.er &mral Ceoræe F.
Scnalgen «e Amy Air Corps had Equested that the
Oue Amy Air Corps 1.1±e11.igence in conrzction with above
captioæd me Directa• noted on the zemoramum,
would do It but before agt8eing to it must insist upon full access to
toJeon
La d
iqoser,
Carson
Band or.
Roon
Nease
diecs t*covered, For instarre in the La, case •Nae grebbed it ard would
not let us rzve it for cureoxv enmi.x*tion.t'
has wc ontacted
Thia 18 to advise enat Special Agent
ard advised him In eomætåon with e Director's notation.
at he desi-Nd to assure
irdicated t
Hoover of compløte in is matter tzat would issue
instræti-ons •to the field di.Ecting that all coopentj.cn be fu•n.ished to üe
FBI ard that ali discs Ecovered be n:ade available .for the ezrnirztion by
FBI A9nts. Dr—l pointed out to he will
from tillE to tins the Nsults ot tae stadi.es of his scientists available
to Qae Bureau for the ageisuroe of the FBI Fiem
to—that there has been a decrease in . the reported
giåltlngg of the discs Which m t bca.uge of ume mct that it has lost nuch of
Its- pan-tciti value. He horever, taat he it mcessary to
follow this throu& to detemirz aa æar as possible if discs wre In
fact seen ard to detemire their orlön,
meral Schulgan inquiNd of
the by *lich the
Atzvau rm.ld malæ the Infortetlon obtaå..rzd rom the Bireaufs inqu-iri.es, kzoyn
to the Air Corps, in the Field as well ag at the level,
inted out to Schulæn txat üe best procedure appeaEd to
the mgular established chan.rsig. It was pointed out to
'Eluion that ete BuNau Field Offices Nintain close liaison •rith
'Intelligence Divigions of the various Amies as well as cloae Laison nith the
IntelligetEe Diviaion of the
mum be satisfied to reoeiæ
%huigen inåeau that he
me
a possibility that this entire matter might lave
• .lldivlduals for puQose of oreatd.ng a Ngs euggegted 'ülat theb
bxeau iæep thia In mird In any interviews cordis ted NBId1ng mported
Goneai Schalgan atated to —that he would nake availab)ß to üe Breau
in üe possession of the Air Corps the Bititings v ch
firseteported so tlut Bureau could corduct
ng
Uaese r.1rd.1v1duBl.e to ascertain tielr motives for reporting that they had p Ywed
discs. men Geæral SchüFn the Infomataon available
these It be promptly brm&t to your atuntion.
270
NOV 18 1964

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ENOP..AD.JM D.
REOOMENDATION
IADD
7/23/47
Is attached a Bureau to the Field for üleir
assig me in lurd..li.ng this matter.

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30,
Drookiyn 27, Naw Iork
I deair• to agkmul 'e mooipt of your letter dated Jaly 14, 1947,
appredåttoa to you for bringing this miter to attentLan.
The forth La your letter ben carefully reviewed
and being . in Burnu ae a —tier of record.
NOTE 8
. ToX•oa
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
hae been a previous correspondent with the Bu file
co d be looated in the Crime Records Section indicatio
that the
entai cage,
ute
Rown
Oam
OMMUNICAIIONS stcoox
"Ai LED IO
3/1) 1947 P.M.
AU
58 ANG
OF JUSTICE

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O
Hoover.chief,of the F, Bei,
Jashington,DeC,
nar Sir;
rookiYR.
'O
Jul,'
i
Please forgive me for takin.g up your time, with this Item,it really
houch everybody B tongue was wagging from tho East and
't resist putting my oar In,
jest ooast,l c
' me Sa cere In the Sky,Heading for the Milky dont know.
n—ttcalls tlSaucersJiTr:
We iead and-Bd and read , "Sky Disc Open to All
of Visionn—ttBe1ieve it or not , 27 States see those flying saucers!' —88 Who saw; t)
Stateg in the Gamett—t'CeieBtiA1 Dishes sought between the Raindrop,
t Find weather called chunks of Miragett—UReport new Red
'lanes resemble 'Flying Saucers crew reports seeing 9 flying diB]
•or 12 minutes" ,ThBt'B the way It went on, for days and days,
Please,dont remind me that thib ld a military problem.SoIdie rs f {ght—tha . u
uny out in the open and away from home if possible eThe Federal Agents (the un.
teroes)fight the enemy under cover and In their home ground8eSo.}Iere I am,
These so-hlled gaucerg may be kitee,but according to reports, these thing,
iidntt flutter or float, they sailed and kites don't gall, the 8tzanges part i
•-hey sailed in the same direction, from West to Zest.
Rewards were offered, no chased them, none captured,chey h
.o land, no long as the Military, Scie ntist and Civilians deny, be
•esponsibie for thi8.Were doed it Lead t03An enemy OA little while back, it war
antioned somewhere that Russia had or has a contraption for their next war, e
ttinp, sound(like B Biient whistle for dogs)what itqs*xxto do, th their enemy,)
aontt know,lf• a country was experimenting such a weapon, the brave people of
, s, were not scared,They only Informed the so-called enemy how successful the
were.
It could be an optical illusion, or ; supposing some unwelcomed persons , plant
few well chosen words, here and there and left the rest to am confused mind,
'.46 se innocent people reporting the phenomena+
What confusee me 18, that when we became too curious and determined to finc
ut what they really are, those t;hings disappeared and we found
ites,l'hese things resembling description as near as possible to the real thi
:hy couldn't these things have been directed ck home again like a homing
to make •sport of this thing, is d taste 01 t gort of reminds me of the boy
'i ried the wolf really came ,Twaa a niceho • flhere hould
s ould be cont
aw,aga Buch jokes or ax
6 to the proper authorit1es,Qhese
u tried for treason, even; if the so-called Joke seems
esa or ridiculeg.we can't take any chances,At this age,Q1me iB sloweuan,ls f
his POOH POOH , is no Joke,
I had In mind that the floode were responsible for these disks (mirages) the
aehin.g waters of the Mississippi, Missouri, PIA tte,Columb1a and Ohio Rivers
un going from East to West, plus the Catskill in the East9rly North,l'he Blue
idge In the East and the Rocky l.fountains in the whatever f
ore ,went from West to East,Hence the Disks?l ho
Respectf ly SubmittÖd,

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J'
Jaly ...u
'per 4-440u
194.....„.
thoge flyltng I cot, 8. train-—
3torm,
'oe -.c•at 'by Elc:noec Conti'0i.
RBCORJ)Än

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[envelope, printed return corner reading "AFTER FIVE DAYS RETURN TO"; handwritten/typed sender line partly legible: "Day [illegible]"; postmarked SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF. JUL 21 1947 1 PM; 3-cent stamp with slogan cancel "BUILD YOUR ... WISELY, U.S. SAVINGS ..."; addressed to "... F.B.I. ... Hoover [?] ... Washington, D.C." (address typed, degraded); crossed out by a diagonal line]

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Offce Mel„bandunø
TO
FROM
D. M. LAD
G. Titch . ü'
FLYING DISKS
UNITED ES GOVERNMENT
DATE: 7/10/4
. 'a farl. •
At request of General —ge Chief of
the Bequix&ts Intelligence Branch of. Army Air Corps Intelligence ,
SPeCitü diecueged the above captioned matter with him
on July 9 , 1947. baera.l indicated to— that the Alr Corps
has taken the attitude that every effort must be undertüen in order to run dovn
all about then. According to Oeneral S±ulggn, the Air Corps Intelligence are &
utilizing ail of their scientists in order to ascertain whether or not such a
phenomenon could in fact occur. He •tated that thig research is being conducted
Yi th the thought that the flying objects night be a celestial phenomenon and with
the view that they night be a foreign body me&ianicaiiy aevi sea ana controlled.
general Schulgen also indicated to— that all Air Corve
installations have been alerted to run out each reported Bighting to obtain all
In page Ing, general Scm.üeen OZ
possible data to assist In this ragearch pro.lecte
statea that an Alr Corps pilot who believed that he gaw one •of these objects wad •
thorouzhi7 Interrogated by Scbflcen and scientists. as vell as a psy—
choiogi8t, and the pilot was Bdananti& in his claim that he a flying d 18k,
the first reported sightings of the so—zalled flying disks vere fallacious and
prompted by indiv1duai8 seeking pereonal publici ty, or were reported for politic
reasons. He stated that if thi'g vas so, subsequent sightings night be the result
of a mass hysteria. Be pointed out that the thought existe that the first reported
•ightings might have been by individuals of Conmun1Bt gympathies with the view to
c'ugine hysteria and fear of a secret Russian weapon.
Sohiiee»inäicated to— that he desi:ous bf
havina all the analee covered in this matter. He etateå that reoorts of his
ecientiete a.nd findings of the various Air Corpo installat ions will be available
In hie office. He• advised that to complete the picture he desired the assistuce
of the rederal Bureau of Investigation in locating and questioning the
who firet eightea the go—called. flying disks In order to ascertain whether or zot
j zOCäö Vue Sö
statements were prompted by perm nal desire for publicity or political reagong.
Schulgen assured —that there are no War Department or Navy
Department reeenrch projects presently tel nc conducted which could in any Vay be
t led up with the ying d Isles. *General Schulgen indicated tc —that
1 if the Bureau vouid cooperate with him in thig he voulToffer all the
facilities of his off ico as to reaulte obtaiæd the effort to identify and
33
run-down thtö
known to the Bureéy and an answer ide available to hia eg soon ae poesible, W/L¯
3

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Memorandum for Mr, Ladd
natter of
—ndicated that It vag his attitude that inasmuch as it been
edtabl hed -that the ying disks are mt the result of any Amy or Navy experiJ
Ento, • he natter Is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he vas of the opinion
the Bureau, If at ali possible, should accede to General Schulgenls request,
SYR:MB
ADTÄDI.JY
I would recommend that we advise the that the Bureau does not it
should go into these investigations, it being noted that a great bulk of those
alleged discs Nported fornd have been pranks. It is not believed that the
Buæau would accomplish anything by going into thesc investigations.

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O
FBI
ATTLE
XREC ROUTINE
FLYING DISCS SIGHTED BY
(bop'
. ..2dJ
str.
Mr.
Mr.
.i*. r. arbo
ear.
; _ an Temru
TAC M
WASHINGTON, SM X.
REURTEL INSTANT DATE. PLEASE BE ADVISED THA
DID NOT ADMIT TO
THAT HIS STORY WAS A HOAX BUT ONLY
STATED THAT IF QUESTIONED BY AUTHORITIES HE UAS GOING TO SAY •IT WAS
A HOAX BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT FURTHER TROUBLE OVER THE MATTER.
b7c
COMPLETE REPORT NOW EN ROUTE TO BUREAU AMSD, WHICH INDICATES
PROBABLY MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL IN THE
HOPE OF BULDING UP THEIR STORY THROUGH PUBLICITY TO A POINT UHERE
THEY cdULD
ILLINOIS.
ADVISED TO
WILCOX
A AND HOLD
MAKE A PROFITABLE DEAL WITH
NTASY NAGAZINE, CHICAGO
W I LL
NOT. BE REINTERVIEWED UNLESS
THE CONTRARY BY THE BUREAU,
RECORDED
PLS
9-16 PM 0K FBI WASH DC GAR

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(B) DISCS -
me Bureau, at the roqueet of the Amy Air Forces Intelligence ,
hag agreeå--tÖEoäerate in the Elveetiætion of flying discs. The Air Forcee have
confidentially advised that It ie possible to release three or disce In odd
& —"together by a vire, fmm an airplane In hi&l altitudes ana that
nmbers, a,
these • e wuid obtain trezændous speed In their descent and would decena to the
earth In arc, The Amy Air Forces has also indicated some concem
that the ported B i Sitings mi Bit have been by subversive Indlviåuale for
the purpose —reatinc a mass hysteria,
Bt.m.AU Ä..J1a1AETm NO,
Seriee 1947
-2-
You should Inveetiæte each instance which 1B bmuglt to your attention
of a Bighting of a flying disc in oxder to ascertain whether or not Is a bona
an IZBcinary one or a prarxk, You should also bear In mind that
individuals midlt report seeing flying for various reasons. It 1B conceivable
that individuzl. mi Öt be desirous of seoking personal publicity, causing hysteria:
or playing a prank.
ahe Bureau should be notified Imnediately by teletype of ail reported
Bi&itingg ana the results of your Inquiries, In instances where the report appeare
to have merit, the teletype should be followed by a letter to the Bureau containing
in detail the resulte of your inquiries, The ABY Air Forcee have assured the
Bureau complete coopemtinc In these mattere In any Instances where they fall to•,.-
make Information available to you or the recovered disce available for your
examination, It should promptly be brouölt to the attention of the Bureau,
An.y you develop in connection with theee disce should be
promptly bmu&t to the attention of the Amy throuél your usual liaison charmers,
. "IDED
1

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1.9b7
I •o •alpe ot Onloa
6, • 19L7. io bio
D or to bo ot
to tho Var only, X bave
ova to tbd Deparunt..
John
cc — Savamuh
to
COMMUNICAT*ONS SECTION
MAILED 2
-3
JUL 14 1947 PIM.
'tDtnt tvaeu Of
Qu Inn

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. Raean
Ban
h7c
I to or your Eutern milon
my 7, i9b7. a.ntcrøat Ia nül.ng laterntion available
gnat).'
aa of •mar be of
Intered to I have takQ liberty or
famt±ed by that
Joh Zdcar
Dire tor
cc — San Antonio
The telegra referred to discs. •
23 h,
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
M A ILE D 2
JUL 14 P.M.
'DtUL Of
U. 8. Of JUSflCE
:mn

Page 50

July 23, 2947
estport, Conneoöi out
da„d ,.ru2v 27, 2947,
coge Gher ancZoeurea, haa been recetued
and vant go bhanr vou tor aubmi 'Sing the
aetcer you nan;' oncd to neo
Sincerely yours.
John Edgar Roover
Dt rector .
IONS SECTi0fi
of INVESTIGATION
Roe

Page 51

Mr. J. Edgar Hoover,
Washington,
near Mr. Hoover:
Str.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr.
Nir.
Gi—vin
Raxen
Tracy .
Egan
Guraea
Herbo .
Pennington ..
Quinn Tamm-...
Neace..
The enclosed came to my husband yesterday.
Mr.
it aloud to the fully, as a good example
of advertising or have you, he threw
I retrieved it, thinking it
it into the wastebasket.
better go into your wastebasket than ours, examined by
your department en route thither, as of possible value.
I presume several thoueend have been mailed, and you may
numberles: duplicates. I will risk that.
as an economist at Columbia University receivee many strange
missives. This ag strange a one ag has come for gome
time, and very appropriate to the present moment.
Sincerely yours,
July 17,
Home address:
Westport, Conn.
RECORDEbC'

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o
Dear Sir;
o
July 11, 1947.
Have you seen one of the mysterious *Saugers •t
What did it look like?
Do you think these strange, celestial manifesta—
t ions are harbingers of a better day?
Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary
ddvance is coming?
Will it make your life brighter, happier, more
us etui ?
We believe one of these startling discs is on its
vay to you. Then the secret vill be out,
The Combined and Amalgamated Committee
of Sky—Scanners, Disc Decipherers and
Nev—Product Introducers.

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tada
Nicboi' .
Mr.
Mr. Treey
•gun
Mr. Gamea
Ilarbo
r.
Mr. Penal
Mr. Quinn T•mm....
Nene. .
Mr.
WASH ING T Ohl F R Oit
DIF.ECTOP.
'DUAL OF INVESTIGATION
U. Of JUSTICE
JUL
n'PE
30s TON. 3
OBSERVED AT WEST N.H.,JULY SVEN,
, SECURITY
CAM•JEIDCE, , , ADVIS•D TODAY
WAS I •m' C
A nETIF,ED
I.IZST
OADVISED THAT
Z%GLAND TEL. AND .CO.
ON JULY SEVEi\! LAST SEVERAL PEOPLE SITTING ot! A PORCH OBSERVE)
C: Qu INSPECTION DISCLCCED SIIALL
AL 30
CIE HALF IN THE
GiulSS BOTH SIDES CF ROAD IN 'A .CIRCLE
.1.*' SEVERAL LITTLE BLAZES MAD STARTED TEE F IPE
CALLED, FIRES APPA {NTI.Y CAUSZD
WHICH WERE A
bF THE TELEPHONE ADVISED
TUAT THE
•V DASH 'OOMBS, WHICH
AT F.7EXICCC.
PROFESS OF,
A JET PLANE.
TPA T POSSICL•.! TEE
TINE E IS t.: PROCESS OF no OF
n OUGHLY RECOMSTRUCTIN METALLIC OJJECT*
SCIEN.TIS'TS lit
F Y INCHE S IN DIAMETER. ,
COPIES-DESTROYED .
J NÖv 18

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-PA T,IO---•
SIXTE *THS OF AN INCH THICK, AND MACHINE TOOLED, APD sout FRAGMENTS
WERE BURNED AND APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN
SUBJECTED TO TERRIFIC HEAT. THESE SCIENTISTS ARE TREATING
AS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
MR. — —AT WEST RINDGE, U. H.
IS ALSO ENDEAVORING TO COLLECT? ADDITIONAL FRAGMENTS AND HAS STATF-DJ7C
THE FIRE AT RINDGE YAS ALSO SEVERAL FRAGMENTS 1"
THAT THE
TO EIGHT HUNDRED FEET EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
WILL •MAKE THE RESULTS OF M i T RESEARCH AVAILABLE IF SICNIFICAI!T.
OPINIONS CF SCIENTISTS AS SET FORTH AZOVE SUGGEST POSSBbE
It'TEREST.
MILITARY AUTHORITIES AT BCST.ON HAVE NOT BEEN .
soÜcy
HOLD

Page 55

Offce Mel, Dndum •
UNITED
OrES GOVERNMENT
DATE: July 18, 1947
OM
SUBJECT,
DIR%'tOR, FBI
BAC,
SXÜCERSR
LI-BAILEY, JR.
STAUFORD, covNECT1cm,
ATOMIC ENERGY ACT
INFORMANT
i
Por the Information of the Bureau this to advige July 7, 1947,
Connootiout, appeared •t
tam.ford Resident office and üe following Informtiont—
—prefaoed hia remark' by stating that he a oolonti8t by
oooupation and ourrentiy epioyoa at the Aurioan Cyannid Regearoh
7c
laboratories on West in Stamford, C@neoticut, a..n Physiog
Divieion, fir ther indicated that the war he wag 'Qioyed
at CaÖridge, hasachuaetts, in the Radiation l.aboratory *hioh labora-
tory 18 connected with Project.
adviged he i'
thirty year• of age and a of the ty or Arizona.
'tated that the topic of Eflying saucers R caused considerable
and oonoern to tho present day 80ienti8t8 and indicated he hW
a pergonai theory oonc raing the Of lying Prior to
zdvancing his on üeory
roÄrk,ed that after üe
don of World. War II, a friend of his, allegedly observed
the Rfiyi.ng 8zuoersn fron observatory Ln Milan and Boiopa, Italy,
that apparently at that Of iying caucergn had oauged a little
go—nt in Italy but that after little publicity they innediateiy died
out as publio interest, —stated tha# it quite poesible that
aotuaiiy •flying •aucero• could be radio gem boö' or atom
bo±8 •Ydoh are circling tie orbit of earth and *Ioh oouid be controlled
by radio and directed to land on my deoiæated target at specifio deaire
ot agency or country operating Ee 8tated t?Lt one of the
iteu of Interest *Ioh he pereonaliy haa observed the fact eze
nuoero rave beu observed in Mexico City, New Orleano, Philadelphia,
Yorke Boston, Nevfotmdimd, Pari', Lian, , Boioæa Yugoslavia
vell u Aibanla. By placing a arotmd globe of earth 1
PN/c1b
117-0
6 0 AUC 4 COPIFS
.27 0 NOV 19b4

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Letter to DIRECTOR, PBI
Ret SAUCERS"
s—.D, C0YNEcrrctn, INFORMANT
ATOMIC ACT,
July 18, 1947
would that of the above—mentioned citieg form a
direct orbit or oirale round the earth and muld be Øre or
in line of any path in the caucer• oould be circling.
mrther stated he had rooently talked
one of the onerz oe
Glenbrook,
onneoticut, ud had been inforæd by
that hl' company 18
a large po•erfui telescope to used in searching the Btrato-
"here bomb• .
i
-$4
4

Page 57

OF INVE8JII' 1.4TiON
U, S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
e,flUMUNlCATtONS SECT'ON
JUL• 16 1947
TELETYP
U•rbo
L. FLY
Mr.
FLYINC
ror.TY LAST IT-
AND .SÜ,Ci4.T
SZZ ALSOI ADVISED cur,
AGENTS relSF.'.TChE.ej
THEIR OFF.ICZS.
PISK car OFFICES
AV-ivrs,
LICHT —
TWENTY
THIS POSITIC;•:
Ef.jLY Lic-}lT CRAY OUTSIDE
PAINT as FOLLCCC
F WHICH UCCLE.
A AND
ca PIECES
OF. aADIO. TUSZS,
IA QUART TY
MAS FITTED! A" Sf{ORT' PIZdE "OF, R
TUBING F,2Ci4 CAN
ENTRAUCE A PIF.CE . OF •INCH P
PIPE THROUGH THE DISK.
t.•ts AbdUT SIX'. INCH
TME CF FIFE.
OUTE
THIS CLOTH'
CLOTI! sti

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FACE TWO
DIS COULD i.CT
DISK PRESENTLY IN POSSESSION or SZATTL2
FLY.
'G INVESTICATIC.'I CONDUCTED,
CC.
IN EVENT FF,ZSS
CK FEI

Page 59

Offce Memoßnd
Director, FBI
FROM SAC, Butte
SUBJECT FLYING DISCS
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
DATE: July 3
of Dally Boise, Idaho,
phonically oontaoted the Butte uked if the¯FBI •as oheoking on
flying reported to have been seen by citizens. advised
that 80 had reported having ceen then that it todoubtedly rag not a
of i.maei..utlon. said thego di808 had been seen July
i, 1947, ia the vloini%r of Trail Creek near Vali* ceputabie
citizens,
The Triter in.fora»d— that this office was not makin.R /
official'. Be gaid that he ne inquiring of agencies.
AIR MAIL
51AUG5
uCOROEJ
36 JUL 23 1947

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Offce Mel', fJpndum ,
UNITED
GOVERNMENT
July 17, 1947
o
F OM
SUBJECT:
Director, FBI
SAC, 1.03 Angeles
OF DISCR
FORTH HOLLYVOOD, CLiÉÖRNIA,
JULY 9, 1947
On the evening of July 9, 191+7, a report rag received at the
Angeles Office that a so—called "f lying disc" had landed in the vicinity of
Radford and Magnolia Streets in North Hollywood, California, the contraption
being briefly described as approximately 30 inches in diameter, all metal,
disc shaped, and having a radio antenna, It was reported to have burst into
flames upon landing. At the time of the report the disc was being held at
the Valley Fire in Van Nuyg, California.
went the department
which time it was found that a nu±er of people had gathered includind news—
paper reporters and photo aphere who were taking pictures of the disc.
Battalion Fire Chief
advised Agent that at approximately
10:30 P.M., an unknnm woman cane on the telephone and excitedly reported
that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her
residence being located at 11858 Lgnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood. A
fire department truck ras eent there and put out the flaming object with the
fire hose, after *lich the object ns taken to the fire station, SA—
thereafter .arranged to traneport the disc to the office.
me device Is briefly described as consisting of two convex steel
discs approcimately 2 feet in diameter, fused together at the outer edge
and fastened together in the center by a hollow cylindrical comection, A
vertical galvanized iron fin was screwed to the top of the disc, and a short
length of pipe closed at one end ran from the outer circumference into the
interior of the contraption, bKhat appeared to be a radio tube was installed
in the center of the top Side, The contraption had a total weight of
approximately 20 pounds,
At the Bureau Office a eerie: of photogaphs were taken of the
device from various positione, and a get of these photopaphs are beinu •
forwarded herewith for the Bureau's inspection and
The "flying disc" w e hereafter turned over to Nador
A.C., G—2, Fßrt Lc hur, San Pedro, California, who subsequent—
ly reported the 06åect/Y9 definitely a hoax and under no circumstances
could have flown under Its 19tn power,
RECORDD
azl
'7)
OPIES DESTROYED
270
NOV 18 1964

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17,
191+7
Re: RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC"
HOLLYYOOD, CALIFORNIA,
JJIX 9. 191+7
On the day, July 10, 1947,
North Bollywood, reported that on this he was at
the North Hollywood Service Station eating at which time there was
considerable talk about the flying disc having been found in the vicinity.
A nurber of what appeared to be yotmg high school students were present
and were havir•lg quite a laugh about the excitement caused by the finding
of the disc, —tated that he received a definite impression that
these young students either had themselves or knew of someone who had been
working for the past two weeks this "flying disc".
was
unable to furnish the narrzs of arv of these yotmg æn but identified one
of them who was making the statemente as being in a Chevron
Service Station at the corner of Victory Boulevard and Whitsett Street.
He described the youngster as about sixteen years of age.
The .above information was also furnished to the Office at
San Pedro, California.
100—9099
ENC. (3)

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[photograph: top view of a circular metallic disc with a central round dark hub and a rim set with triangular tab fittings around the edge; high-contrast degraded print]

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[photograph: a circular metallic disc seen on edge, held at an angle, with a triangular dark shadow behind it; high-contrast degraded print]

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[photograph: an oval metallic disc seen from above at a tilt with a central dark hub and a tab or pole at lower centre; high-contrast degraded print]

Page 65

Offce
FROM
SUBJECT:
Men. ,
UR. UDD
(DISCS)
INFOR.WITION CONCERJING
UNITED
Or
ES
DATE:
GOVERNMENT
July 10, 1947
#isoa
ci•u
c
æ045 AM this date, Hood telephonically Contacted the
Bureau and advised at oppro)dnately 11:30 PM, July 9, 1947, the office
in 1.08 Angeles ud received infomation from the ReeidZit Aga•xt at Bur
Califomia, that a 'flying dieen had ianded in or aear Burbank and ha ' been
gem to burst into when it landod, Further, that it had been the cause
of a fire in some woods, thig fire either in Burbank or possibly In the cit.
limite of Angeles, which Mr. Hood could not be certain, The fire chief
at Burbardc caned the msident agent at Burbank and told him he n uld
b7c
hold the disc for him,
Coincident with the informüion received from the Los Angeles
Office received c•113 from the newspapers requesting The
stating åey had called the Air Force Intelligence who had stated Rwe are
not interested", According to Mr. Hood, this comtrønt had aroused the newspapers
and ü)ey stated they intondsd to pub118h thi8 quotation and belabor same in their
firCissues, ur. Hood stated that he had refrained from any statement
to the press other than to aåni.t posaeggion of 'n object and that it was being
tumed over to military authorities in moming (this AM), It being Hood's
opin±on that. he did not want any quotee In the press and certainly not orb to the
effect that we •eN not Intere8ted.
As described to him, ur, Bood stated that the ob$ct was an aluminum
disc about 2' In diameter weighing about ten pounds, painted with aluminum
and having gome gort of a radio tube in the center of the disc, This object ns
in posseeeion of ute resident agent at Burbank and would be turned over to
mi 1.1 taw authoritiec (GQ) In Log Angel" this moming.
RECORDED (9 S
Mr. Hood 'B purpose In calling to piace tfé Bureau on notice Ngarding
the above deecr#ed obåect and any mrther information vould
Bunau at once,
Acti on: None indicated,
be transmitted to the
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thia Pum.nu yot.• rdzht find to contact thc
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l.'r. J. Edgar Hoover
Wash, D.C.
(No not forbid — but ask
Doesn't it seem wi sest for you to forbid papers —
the papers) to keep all news or-those discs out of INTs
sure just what they are & Tran.
untmy0U
i Seæs to us with all the enemies ye have, even with±n our borders,
it be something far more may
in thi s war & another who over—äTFTis America — & we do want it rear ly
nrotected from nour on. friouch are dead & maimed — with—oT-Einc out
now as it easi ly the papers carried that story if reporters
were made to see how much more sensible not to report — except to the F.B.I.
There is too much of danger ahead anyway ——
Hastily
hi cago —
COYY
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Mr J. Edgar Hoover, [illegible]
Wash. D.C.

  Doesn't it seem wisest
for you to forbid papers
(no not forbid - but ask
the co-operation of all
papers) to keep all views of those
discs out - of the news

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[begins mid-sentence] ... work made [?] all now much [?]
more sensible not to report
it - except to the F.B.I.
There is too much of
danger ahead anyway -

                    Hastily

[redacted]  b7C
[redacted]  b7C
Chicago -

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