UFO Part 5 of 16 (FBI Vault file)

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FORM NO. 64
Offce Memorandum
TO
FROM
SUBJECT:
of three
Director, FBI - AIR MAIL
SAC, San Franciaco
EPOms OF FLYING DISCS
UNITED siicl*ES GOVERNMENT
DATE: August 26, 1947
AfD
There are being transmitted herewith to the Bureau photostatic oopies
reporte received from Lieutenant Colonel ÄA—2, Fourth
a-Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, involving reported sightings of f iyi
digog.
The Log Angeles Office is being furnished with a photoetatio copy o
tho report ot Lieutenant Colonel —dated August 18, 1947 concerning the
investigation conducted at the Muroo Flight rest Base, Muroo, California.
The Butte Office ie being furnished with a photostatio oopy of the
report of Colonel —ated August 20. 1947 which gets forth a
letter received from Mr.
He Montana •
This office ie maintaining contact with Lieutenant Colonel
and will furnish the Bureau with a subsequent report from him concerning the ob—
gervationg of Mr—aore.mento, California, who has reported
certain observations which ho believes may involve a flying diac at Placerville
California, on August 14, 1947.
Enologurea — S
co Ins Aneei98
Butte (with
(with enolosu.r•)
q/
L7c
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'i 1947
ICÅTION:
•ata
he
he Aid ±ant
tn iii end
lion
Ilforhia
haroo, Calif.
;eokTRdk.i.iNc OFFICE ..... . ....
*i54t.-,_
06 eovtRED
ChE uggBicATtoå
CASE
' at i,requt8t of Air Defense Comand
1 47 *D,' tub". investigation of Flying Di 80,
$ØO hQuro, two inolded±e ooeurred in the vicinity
'i being' eoh•iaåreä by this headquarters
iA1j• , iibiRj•
Alic 21

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STATB 09 )
OF KF.kN )
The itoi}owcng "a statement {',iven•, raily by
Furbe' Army' Air uFiø1d,i I,'uroc, California, • civen to
Captqin' Bladk;- Intelilcenee Offiieerj on II August 1947.
itatdl&ihAt the 0b eot he saw, he belioved at the
me be , 8 er end of *no i81gn1Ciqanoe dr the objoot8 not {moor tant
epoféed,• Thgre was htöthlhd clearly enough Beer. by the
.•F. Cbioiof to ake i'urhleq reports.. Justifiable .
statement g' von, freely and voluntarily without any
threat'S or Und"'du+ä96.•
This atnte:nont consist 3 of one (l)
pace; {hd ' he truth .co Gher best .bf my thowledce belief,
: harr d' black

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oP CLt'ÉORNIA)G•
OF kERN)
5,'ih'O "following .en± given by'
Muroo Army Air
'tacemedt elten On 11 July • 19470
,'poon 'öh.ae dtiiy 1947,' my attentloh was called to an
.fivo (5) and
to a 'thib hotA11io object.
{he*tÆ e' •dh p iu'+faee.
Ban. in an 0891 i lating faahlon, alrr,ogt to
The object
4.tÉ,6he of •gr6ufiå aik It climbed to
Fly • high' éitltudb and' åibT a Biowlyl into t.he distance,
Tho object
.or p airp*ane buf did hR+e the of a
i.uotiaå'ttbfåtiei The 0BJeot In view approximately
rt.t•.liieh : 9) minute"' '{his :gamå bbåe t was teen Sy. my wife .rthe eume time,
• has bedn freely and,.€pluntatiiyt without; any
p dndJi• -Uf.arJgoi'• stQemensaoöhéli.ée of otid page, and is
GO ho*ledgo (bellir,
I have % $nltialed all
Höåed'
o, a, momlllan

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STAN CAIIFORNTA )
COUNTY )
The -,foilowing veh by
4144th' AAFMj', Mü*oc Alr: Fidi'dD California j ataeement g Iven
on 14 -duly 194}, to
Thls •if *hat * on jul'y 8, 1947,
.t Ad' NCO {n •eha*ge •of the
Field, and
About 09t45 he om , thc Pdgt Ekofiange Ehen he called
to de ,oomå i8ked iSok dpÆo vh9re he pointing
and my éurp*lee.t two 'fly ti : objeb±i Which appeared to me like
[ho '12) flying•, dlßo 8; Badoer oblorå4 obåcoti, flying in a
lhorthwö9tdrti dl'reötldh' at , ÅppP $60. '400 mllei per hour
"nd an altßudO. o 'about 76004. * ouid hear a 'notor
'i .one -lanes and'.lt' hot hive, been a bdlioon,
of. Cood Me(ith and i
n and hallucination.
h'Ä8 cFeii any
•t Chréåti'or peomiaäs uhder duroo d It of one (i)
Ana €0 éliø belier. I have
hidd éorkedeåons deeme {hio
•Chone a mo mi llan

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bFtRERNÆ)
TbÖ: rolldwlni• Æå±dkené given by
Etukod Arciy ,Åir Pield,i .t!uroöj• eal{rorniA, scatoment
0b 11 • july 1947i 60 GthotMii A. iFo'{litan, this Station.
The folldw•lqe j a±ernent •.ooneerninc the aotiéi o>servanco o ? what h
•é•rée'Ö'n te"ed ' Di A UflYinc SÄUcer'I' true and correct and
{be noted above ment.ioned obgeyvanee eE9de by me por-
dn30yhtt 6bmp1etå mind body,
•ét .app}oxf'råatdly niho-thiriy
a i with ierdonnei in the Poht Exchango Office.
Pdl a' ' followd t:
omgone 'häTd to ohpw rag ibre pf th'Bo biso, beforo I will
"i I've'
in erlig Hoard one Jur •Idcai aidorafé In 4he trai'fio pattern,
' •bbking,'upöias YI o,Sgert.6d th'e air#ÄfG, nnd looked ilithtly
'{hé iöft:, Whereupoh I ob8eF#ed (2) all?er objeceo or either a
sbli&rloål dioc—iikö ihapoj tnov{ng.l about three hundrb,d (300) miles an
'D/ å/prb*lmaåbly FiEht ihdusand (8000) feet,
hoadin".
'threo hundred •,tweney 4egreqg ( 00) due horth,
Wh'et\i obsenod !fiése obdeot8 t
Who. 'innedla±ely •came
wh'rö was stabdingtö• i *po'lnted In ditieouon of the 0b,4éct3 and
a ked the k Tell me wh.å± you "e up , here,
tifiierodpon, ell
•thuo , (S) wath eund+y ddNnént8 en The ire flyinz Disc" ,
ob9dBvAnodti! asked the to tell me in vhat?'.direction thc
e'O±9 •Oere trivet withoul their: dlreoHon myself, e.nd attain,
±hrde (3) A conel#ene htlture• sta ed •he object' movinc.
Gime leek, beierål tl eCi>hd renew ny visibn the o.håoet8
'sure that ehere Were nåt any rosuit9J of eye strain, or in eny nnturo
i •Thé obåeoes In que Hon wore not ropea±l wore not, nir-
oould\nqt• hive b'öu w "hbé balloons released from thig
i BOO .éhöy acaiti t khe wind, hr,d cince
iDpee-d they *ore t*aveilhg d hen tonfa i d' rection in which
y disqualåfied thp fa t that they wgre weather balloons.

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Cheebbgervahodtpf_ *he" p onoménön ifid höpliy; ±hat niche, havo,
t anil it tuptfho:t *ithe'iegj into the dlspensari' to
' pe itefy.ödieal Off leer •to verify, for my OYn curiosity, the
ao±ual bt"servanéd obje#s, by Æhe time I reached the baok porch
who •a •regleterod nd*ee, and about
8eten {other persopnel wo*e'•• •no, the obJeo±8, had by that time, dig-.
appeared, du•e to tho •speed! with *tie
Upon further
ewO (2) of • thii •me' time sikhted ano±her objeo± of a
'sliver: spherical ON dlg'-låke •na±ure' Ehousand (8000)'
"ra.$ollhß In tho North-e'nd' i called the 0b 300±3 sto tho
of
.nd poiptedl± dut•séo the other personnel standine, near
Q Ail us "w. thi ,obJeot,•• exdepuon of..two (2) out of seton (T)
oehotel; Ail gf us looked away from the eever9i ttimes to nako suro
DO' •byo 8+ra1n or from 'tho object to beeotao an optical
uoion.'
% F,roti actual 98ser.tAhoi 'circled In too a circle and
eåtero a "ane Ito s bit that I Q. know of,
•it 'oould nbt havo been
any type 01 Of' the relieo±lon that wae éreated when the obåeot
reaohåd aorta n •Tho Obåeo± could, not have been a local weather
bAi10ön +ery (mP0si{bib h' Yeaghei• batlö0h' would •stay at the
altftude)Äb long and in such eensietent nature as did the
abbve objeotä"
am With too sonetarß visldn bf the gun or
Bdght lb€deot and {IIUÖions are poseible and
Wish. make he aSoTi penetonad observanc
thit nacee*,
eWe •aid völun±ap.åls.;• any threats
br prdmdßes under dureji; 'This std emeh±, oohsiDts of two (2) pages, and
, the boat: of my and
'orreO€lon.4 deenod neoeenry,
8/ i a i' miliari
I hate initialed all

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dF m;1A )
tcotntTY F kERti, )
e' rolibwit.c; 18 a statement 'Elven b'
roo AH.y, Air . Fidld, •B..arqo, California •j' gtetoment, riven to
e±ütlon, cn 16 Autost 1&4'/,
Tho puoyilian;
•7 Iih.il 20110, whilo up
th6 C outd noticed .overydne lookiny. up into the air.
Off +0 ' he noAh about* 10,000 42\000 Ifeel altitude, Y:R9 an
•"ßha±'i sgdhedf at]' first wéåther baliooti, but Ritter lookin,; at
'fox; while: .1 Kotåoqd •.that an a forward whirling
tmbvemen Méhåßt ti•nvilfnc ebåut, 200 to 225
•an headipg from Ve+ to ead±;
T •e Objebt Wag yell'.otlsh•white In ;coior and would estimate thet
sphere aboue b iO fe" {n {dqamåtero'
was
did no +0
this stplemiht elven freely end volu tirt 19 without on" threats
'tor pro ds'. under .durJésQt th{e 8€e'Eemedt eons of'. onu (l) IT, and
éhe:, ruth t+ tie ••of kt(owledge and béi{ef'
omas mo mi 1 lan
MIL

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CO OF )
he following Is givpn bil
Yurcc Army • AI r Field, i •••_•ur:oÖ, dA14f0tPiåjt given to
ÅI •CIC Aient, thig Shtion', 12 1947,
i 1160 houro, 8 • duly 1947," while the und"9icned was sittin In
bbs 'truck. Iodated kNba # S; dozers take; 'for the
'pu lbs i. o%gervinc a P—02 e Jeotlbn seat dxper{mönt, the Col lowing
•un ail)i {arity..bd8. bbooryed.
he', undersigned gazing u>nrd 'to*rd a Tormation of two (2)
2 s ak A&2G aiéö?aft flyin 20,00.0 Ceef'i preparing to carry
ou •a eae odeöUon obsorved,ä roundod object,
boiormj•. ttedömbieå•ab 'parachute canopy-c
ir•pfeseion that pr matuFe d'eotlÖn the seat and
Rd ooou'*redö Th$9 8ddy}..WAe ht a • det8rm'hod height lower
2 'doo reef; b.' nd falllng
hreo (3) rkte observed
for • which" was ejBo±e •later,' .-•As it fell
rl Bileh±ly north ot.
t thö prévailing wind, toe
bu hp earéd' 'lbwbF" thai the Vblöoity 50480 iircraf't'
The hor iontql m6tion oould not be determined.
8 ugh d. eriOMEh lb+el to oermåt
bbc r late/ i Boue ee, ' hpe{$ed a dietinct ovular
out '(2 Y' p-, HB Which might hhve
or •bad otfiir Intervals, sugkest•
bee or nobs'
• In hgi•. rotation .br Of
o blt.oke f' Ionius; r a .ksj' ,ehgi o nuize, .ør. other. elasua le (?)
or • 18 bip ü'enns of proplålsion•wor noted ; ' , Thet was silvery, r'-
I i g Bluninum painted fabi• c,
åp eaÉ as.•denåe as a
..tpar or/ tq!, ennoby,
pii_ the .öbjoot drbpped Io a h Into Iino o
on ofbtho hbuntain t,ops, tm . iost' tol tho Ga don of tho observbr,
tHåt Obj 01 about 90
i'kd the ft vo pubpio e
iri the; biprvation truck, four
(4} Job •this 0b Jeo L Ahd mide these people in91uda:
F eld} i•baytbn,•• Ohio
'(O%hor Åö.mon en
iti Gng
objeott
F • OÅnk Ir$n *bde as dl'±aintly by

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tt e Iwai •not grom b jeot with cpv.
' b,' o Ject appeared ; nb i I,
been •urdbpeål Troh
not a o •
Thia Wud •ivene 'freel.',' -nud l"
or pro.—.i seg Under dureis. • • '(hi statemeui' Gdn:3iét8' 01' two (2)
Is the n truth.v.to. 'bogt 01' • • at,
be iiui"
all deemed' nedsesa y,
thomA5.a: mé mi llan
uC MILLAN

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foliöi,dn.•; a •€,iven on 14 jut' 1947, b}
r.'.u-roc Ariy Air• Fioid,$'uéocj ' California.
i, •å:tl fully 'awarå oft Civil t•rad Constitutional. Rights, •und under-
stand Io hakinc stute•neht,
Oti Tuåsday moroGk 'July' 1947, at • approximately 10tOO, 'f.hile typing
dome eaéd9, and cafe Of ray routine
r me, with
the front of
Pointåhg up in a direction directly
above hé asked us 6b '*plain {whet saw.
There were two, silver
•Olored di like flying •toward l!odave, ballfornia, one directl
baek or other, at bf about .300 to 400 m! leg per hour, havil
an' altitbde• approximately 8000
I. ifstened• carefully for a fow
minutes, : and heard no idrönoi, euch BhoUid. be heard from any aircraft,
i also my e,vos tdh atibehör' dired€ion and lookint: béck the same
.Opdt, I Wä8 able to same •objecti again, Having assured
-nyÖelf that: there was *ho bye-stölh, v,'As •eohvåhced t..hese' objects were
boti Weather bellDons due .'ého horizontel post Hon i h whi6h they were
r Nor • eouid .thd•r hive". beqn birds Of' ahy nature, due to the de-
Ilpite rotleouon rroq• Chk dun, rayb.
t be'en on this.;dasep An aggenee of Bix months,
e\ehtoen• mo thi, end ar:Y familiar typo aircraft.
Abod± •three 0k fburi , atter . those f obdoet8 i',ed nearly
I' nröUrid and jic,hteå flying, objoct,
flYinz object vrac all ver
oimilart abovo mpnt uned• obj4åf;B'
coiorédt:and in the' d or a dieo,• the first t',vo object
. \ wa t Iyana in a .•.ht Oir he.ither 'iodine, nor •gafhin•, altitude; at
. up roximate4y thoug. nd #héref.ore convinced •it doul(f
.hA*itbeen a weathor b'Ä11dohi"• and becauee ot' Ghe tight circle it could
moe have.?beon any typo"
Thie etatement wå3 ly ,end vdlunlqrily Wit.höu±
.or :promlåW8 !under durebs,', •at •temene donsi8%8 of' one (l) page, and
{0 truth 'to . tho behe .my %oRiedte rnd benefi I ht•ve initialed
'a .11 correeHortb deortodfrhöéeséa*yi
of, iot.ånd 'maild etaeetnent is true
*and eorreet.
's/ B} t,hdman rraÖ mi I

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cotil•r i
o lowinc,.19 a .gtåtdment t..ivon by
4144th? ÅFBtJ} Eurog '*Anny AI # Sieid, •.t','.uroe,• Cilifoknia, seatöment c, i ven
on ; 14 ié47j to
e" cht or July aeton o" 0108k (10200) in the loraint•,
I Obse p' reouiiy disc, f'iying• . In a north.wogt diruco„ion
.t ae tan stihted altitude' o;. seven br. eight t{ousapd feet, travel in, • 9 t
Ch#ee b or four •hundred miles hour.
ujt -a; few •minutes .beforbe' I was iti the 'billmtirv» Office and
Lieuteüant.y09eph 00 called, mi and €70 others out-
thdn aekod us Wo •sa ,
I saw two (2)' obQje0t9 with own
t am Boy and Was the*l , perfect ) physical condition,
I have
',hld am potltitej• the;' two (2) could 'not huvo been
Aircrart, wedtherl. balloone pr bird8i Lue to Bhe Altitude in' which thtty
were flying, fthey gäve off .•refiöcuon the rays of the sun,
In' Addition, io,thegå two 'another obåodW a few
lave at the same altiQ-iddl doing certain inaneuvers such a .3 fly inn
Thé two bad • already *tisappeared,
droleo'
This ob.*oct to
bowiedie of A{roraft bould have been gn airplane beoause of tho
•eky' eight mineuveF undergoing'
I hR€e been f' i yin•; in and ) eve
been u*9i.and : types of' einée 1943 ihnd qevor in life havo
heebsgory dan. and will swear to Chis
! seen such as this', I
hai been elvan freely. and voluntarily without any
&hrbatjibr Pfomisös under •duress,
'Rh13 •statement "idonstots of one (l)
pag 'Ad is the *ruth .to the of my bowÅedge Atid belloi', I havo
Iniiiaid'd All' corrections deemed heeegsary,
'8/ "'ff ai mo tøåilan

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Ati
20 August 1047
•Spe 'Æien€" n Sc'
But di gj RooöF42pj San' Fratic•ioco,• Calif.
teleihor and T'ieÜtph
er reported {ool-
oec.
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opp
_ AuNst
ee Eaobi*on
ent .
'Ö? aieöuni Ot be
as the date
ee Auwet47 aeuunt ef
thid had nai
Vo/ , kdden .5
8, uuuJ
nant- '
AUG 21
noutMo
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Zen
•uuoee,
rating
an m
a and Jeb
Zari •an u
iod - nportea •oeine
tho (rari
Meh
the bringing of
i the
"p*tza.nieiy 8000
fee' for
noi pata
inie thin ao it
ap#hntiyrb
i or
i oua
chi as
"ovi ao
ana the

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DIRECTOR,
Dear Sir:
Meber•al Bureau of Investigati
Mniteb states Drpartmetlt of Justice
407 U. S. Court House
Seattle 4, Washington
August as, 1947
SIGHTD
The following, in e ral, are the facts e ardång the
flying disc story that started by
subsequently resulted in news ator eg
and th*higezo. Times Shat a carrying officeFs was
down 6r eabotaged over Kelso, Yaghårcton on Aucugt I, 19147 because it was carry—
ing eome flying disc fragnents,
The original story, as related by
was to the effect that while patrolling in his
at near
A land, Washington, sighted six flying discs, one of Which fluttered to the
earth and disintegrated, showering his boat with fragnent8 •tlich caused eane
dana e
Chica
a letter J 7
the boat and killed his dog.
f—Davis Campany which publishes fantastic adventure magazine' {n
him fr ente of the flying disk ard relating the above stow,
equeste rang—Radio News In Chlca o to verify the story 88 related
hen engag
eighting the flying disc and
—confiming— 8tory,
léäraphed
Boise, Idaho, who was the first to report
had previously made a contract for
a story regarding the fiving disc to cane to Tacoma and check the eto
renated by
came to 'dashington July 191+7
e o owing day, July 31, with
arranged for a meet
—in his room 502, üinthrop Hotel, Tac
.,ashington.
algo .1
nited Airlines Pilot who V
'ailed to attend the meeting
had also reported seeing flying disc tratyne t5, and Amy Intelligence to attend
*ECORDEI'.
DDBXED
COPIES
270 NOV

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19, 191+7
this meeting.
Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BRO.Ü•: of n e xgence from
hamilton Field, California, all met in room at various times durine:
the afternoon and evening of July 31, 191+7 and discussed the flying disc
Story as r e Officers,
DAVIDSON and Lieutenant left about 2:00
the morning of August 1,
19&7 to return to Hamilton Field. California for flir Force Day in a and
The left engine on the
were carrying so;ne of the reported disc fraaments.
B—25 burned an eydlaust stack v€hich in turn caught the left wing afire, the
wing subsequently breaking off and tearing off the tail, The B—25 crashed,
However, the Crew Chief and
kill-ing Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BRO'.N .
a hitch—hiker parachuted to safety, Intelligence Officers at McChord Field,
Washington advised there was no indication of any sabotage,
The plane crashed
at Kelso, ':'ashington approxirnately 2:50 A.
August 1, 1947.
Five anonyrnous calls Viere received by a
Tacoma, • bctv;een 11:30
and the
au •ust„ 2, 19147,
first a
and 5:30 P,
July 31, in which the caller stated that there was
approximately 11:30
a meeting taking place at that tinte in room 502 of the '.•jinthrop flotel concerning
•the disc fragments found on Maury Island. The second call waz received between
and 1.2 noon, August by
*lich the caller advised that at that moment a big meeting vakil;re Dlace
room nwnber 502, •atinthrop Hotel; that the B—25 which crashed wac
in
carrying disc traynents and that Field officials had stated it was
The third call was received Friday, kugust 1, 19k7
shot down or sabotap;ed
at 5:30 P.
Tacoma, in which the call.er stated
by the
that the B—25 which crashed a so,
..•ashington was carrying flying disc
fragments and that the dead officers were Captain DAVID EQN and Lieutenant
, Intelligence Officers at Hani Iton Field, California. This call
BRC fid ,
was prior to the release of the dead officers' names by Amy authorities and
Ehe caller indicated tht-.t when the nanes were released, it would verity the
-nformation he was furnishing was correct.
The fourth phone call vjao received
at aorroximately 6:45 P. Friday, August 1 by the—
in
which call the caller stated the B—25 was definiteyshöt dov:n and that if he
contacted Intelligence officers they would act deny it. fifth phone
call received by the
Taco la, at 5:30
gust 2,
'1.947 at, which time the cn.l ler stated the 2—25 was shot down from the air with
a 20 meme cannon; thr:t the Lfarine plane found recently on ! -Ft.. Rainier had also
been shot dom and that
loald be taken to '.i'right Field Tuesday
morning. - the Amv author ties released the names of the dead Intelligence
ofCicer
s which verified the information as given by the anonymous caller,
acoma printed this story on August 2, 191fi and carried several articles
e r been d or of
t,he fact, that it was carrying disc
:ave admitted
that the ,naterial which they sent to
had no connec ion T.ith any
flying discs atld have given a signed to that effect which are beir,"
-2-

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t,
August 19, 1947
• they
the t lying disc story and their actual rt in the story, United Airlines pilot,
n July 31, 1947, both related their
states that
orielnal flying disc fragnent story, Infomation gathered yould indicate that
the monymous phone calls were possibly made by —in order to build
up the flying disc story to the point where they could make a profitable sale
of the story to —hicago, Illinois e
No facts have been developed
which would definitely prove that —ade these calls. however, from all
facts and infomation gathered, it, appears he is probably the most likely to
have made the anonymous call', The detailed interviews of the persons contac—
ted in regard .to this flying disc 'tory are. being Bet out below.
fran the
The following • Investigation was conducted by Special Agent
at Tacma, Washington on August 6, 7, 1947:
hat by
acma, •„•achiE%ton,
e to check on a story which he wag Snfomed had been obtained
a • arper•. was 6'tppnaed to have
• . •r.ge
boat near five or
flying discs, one of which fluttered the and finally disintegrated,
Fra ents of the dise were reported to have down on the boat of —
his dog,
tated that he went
ausing gome damage and ki
Tacoma, ashirgt.on cheek •ith
o the home
him on this flying disc story, He stated that as best he could recall, thie / c
was Just a few days after the first flying disc stories had appeared in the
ard 'as on a Sumay evening, He believed it was the early part of June. He
stated that—took in the kitchen proceeded to talk about this flying
disc story in iow muffled tones. Ke stated that —cted rather suspiciouo
and that shortly his Mife came Into the kitchen and was in a considerable rage,
telling admit that the entire story was a plain fantasy which he had
dreamed up. He stated that after his wife told—o admit the entire story
was false, that
then adraitted that there was nothing whatever to the story
ard it was an ent re hoax, —stated that in view f the enraged condition
bf wife, he immediately left and reported to th eattle Post Intelligencer
that the entire 'tory was a hoax and that they Aoul.d ot print it In any way,
He further stated that he advised the Seattle Post Intell±gencer that—
wag
a mental and that nothing which he had r.orted should be carried as far
stated that Bince that time he had received repeated
a news story,
remiests fran the Oise 5tategnan re%tegting infomation as to the flying disc
' otorieg originatine with dated
that he had never, in his experience, had such pressure brought upon him to
releaae a news story arx•i that he repeatedly advised the Boise Stateman that
the story of eeei.nc the flying by
was a canplcte fabri—

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cation and should be in no way, carried as a news story and refused to urnåsh
any Infomation regarding these reports. He further stated that he advised
the Boise Statesuan Shortly before, or the Wne
left Boise
cme to Tacana to check on the flv±nc disc stories w{t.h
that should not come as the entire story was a hoax.
The following Infomation was obtained from
r iashincton»
coma,
It the Tacana Times paper which first a story
on August 2 and subsequent stories intimating that the B—25 which crashed at
Kelso, Washington Pon the early morning. of Auqust 1. • had been sabotaped or shot
because of the fact that- it carried flying disc fragnents. —stated
that on Thursday, July 31, at approximatelJ" 11:30 A, he received an anonymous
phone call in which thc caller stated that—ard Amv Intelligence
officers were meetinc in room 502 of the '.Tinthrop Hotel to check on the flying
disc story from iühich fragments were obtained on Maury Island —stated he
turned around to speak to his editor and '"hen he picked
e hone again the
line was dead. He stated that the caller asked for
who was out at the time of the call'. He stated a
ailed
at "2 In the Hinthrop Hotel was advised Y
—that he could furnish no infomatlon as he was there on a Government
111
mission, —stated that on Frida' Au ust 1, between 11:00 k. and noo
he received another phone call for
in which the anonymous caller
stated •that he might have gane Infomation for him. —asked the caller if
be was not the sane party that had called the previous date and he said yeg,
The caller then related that at that mment there was a big meeting in progress
in
502, in the Tiinthrop Hotel} that the B—25 which crashed that
morning Kelso was carrying flying diec fragnents fmm Califomia and that
McChord Field officials had stated the plane was sabotaged or shot down, he
caller then hung up after making some statanent to the effect that he was a
operator. —stated that he to the Winthrop Hotei on
about noon and found that there was no male operator on duty, He stated he then
went to rom "2 the door and that Captain
United Airlines pilot, was on the phone,
stated that he heard
make
•a statement to the effect that the infomat on muat be very strictly confidential,
He stated that there were one or two Others {n the rom besides
but that he could not identify them, He stated that —told him he could
no statement ard that he had attenpted to check the story with various people
on Maury with negative results, He stated that about 3:30 P. Friday,
he wrote g etory regarding •the mysterious Infomant and caned —at his
hotel room, stating that he had written th story ard that — had better
the United Press Hirnan;
check it. He stated that he to
Tacotna, who advised that the story BOU e antastic.
5:30 P, M, , Friday, August
i, an anorvmous caller
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stating that Captain DAVIDSON' and Lieutenant BEC .71
were the Inte leence officers that were killed in the crash of the B—25 and
that civilians and the sheriff had been kept away from the wreckage v.'ith the
He stated the anonynous caller then said that the names
Anny guarding it.
had not been released yet by the Inny and that this verould verify •his
et teraentc ,
stated that the f01101*ing morninc, Saturday,
.'.ugust 2, the-
ver I t. hat. t,hø o f' f' •i ad were a.na T.i
and two days later verified that they were Æirrny Intelligence officers.
stated that the anonymous caller again later contacted —c; Ili-ng
him by that name, and at this time stated he did not call the
the —nd denied calling
In this call the anonymous caller stated that, ITDonIt think 11m doing th s for
He then asked if the story had been put on the wire and v;hen—
you.
said yes, the caller stated want this to get back to Nev.' Jersey.
caller further stated that the B—25 was shot down by a 20 rn.m. camon and that
the marine Plane which was recently found wrecked on the side of ? It. Rainier.
tzvinn been m.i.c.-.-inø for several Pionths, ha
alco been shot doon.
thnt 't.e ahould get in toucl, with a flyer named —v:ith
stated to
. i ted Airlines v.•ho, he stated, was with — when they were snot at
over Ifontana.
The caller then stated, "It LI see you Tuesday.
I tm "Oin to
—stated that he had checked with
Gan Francisco.
of
United Airlines Who denied knowi any pilot by the narne o
ever having flown over Yontana.
anonymous call in which the caller stated that —ould be sent to
Field on Tuesday and that Saturday one of the men vjho found frac;nent3 of the
f i -inc disc was to be flown to Alaska, —tated Ehat in view of the fact
that the information as to the Intellieence officers on the 9—25 had as
, Irnished by -the anonymous caller, had subsequently been verifi 'd by the
toe story was released that the B—25 was carrying disc frogments retnrning to
Field, California and furnishing the inference that the plane had been
sabotaged or shot down.
he contacted
Seattle at which tiune
ated that about 8:00 P. ! k. on Sunda
lucust 3,
t his home,
stated he had not given any story out to the Post
Intelligencer at Seattle; stated that he had gotten a telegrap. to call a number
Tsoi se and i;hen he called and found out it was the ouatesman, had
tie stated that thc Boise Statecman thon contacted him, at l.'b,ich tiane
-hung up,
he admitted he had seen the disc fraunents, but that ho did not take any of
t} time that e h ad v
Public Relations Of Cicer from McChord Field, all afternoon until about
_3 P. —informed that he had told the krmy authorities ever«
thing that he and.
tine that
This time
knew about the flying disc fragnents story from the
1 eft Boise, Idaho and he had left Seattle,
adaxtted that there were some of the supposed disc fra
stat.ed that e called
tlfre room Thur Sd ay afternoon. On Monday
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August 19, 19/47
stated that about noon —and
+.hn+. hp h 5 e e nn hari
exploring a gravel pit on Maury Island and found some stran e rock fometions,
He stated they picked up some of these samnles and that
later
saw them and they went back over to Maury island at which time additional
oaraples were obtained and that—sent these to a friend of his at the
University of Chicago to have analyzed
They stated that they received a
report and that apparently this friend had asked a newpaperma•a to find out
where the rock fomutions vjere obtained. told
sometime after the first disc story had appeared, they received a tele—
eran from Trans—Ocean Press from Chicaao wanting infomation on the flying
disc fragments, —tated tiat they fiad at no tirae indicatcd.-the
rock formations were a part of a flying disc and that Captain— ard
—were not interested in the rock fomations and they denied
'Ting them to
iagtor.
x acoma,
furnished substantially the same i rl onnation that wus obtained from
regarding the anonyrncus phone calls he had
He stated further that the first call he received was on Friday,
received,
August 1, at arotü"ld 5 : 3C P, At this tine the caller stated that the B—25
which crashed at Kelso, l'iashington was carrying disc fragnents and that the
two officers killed were Captain DAVID3CN and Lieutenant BRC officers with
Amy Intelligence at Hamilton Field and that the fragments were top
material. He stated the caL1er indicated that winen the released the names
of the dead bfficers it would verify that the information he was furnishing was
correct • stated that the second call he received at auproximately
6:1+5 P, if. Friday, August 1 at v,'hich time the caller stated that the 9—25 vaas
definitely shot down and that if he contacted Anny Intelligence A—2, the man
uuü.a-u uen.&
tact Colonel— but it was found out it was Colonel— who was in charee
of Amy Intelligence A—2. The caller further stated that the Sheri f •Y s Office
hc.d been kept, aua' from the crash and that no civilians had been allowed near
stated the third call he received at 5:30 P. M, ,
nagust 2
the plane.
an I thot this the caller stated that one of the men -who had been (.onferring
Captain to that day.
further stated that the b—25 was shot down from the air With a 20 m.rc:. cannon;
th,rtt the I larine plane found recently on lit, Rainier had also been shot dovm;
that Caotain —qould be taken to Field Toesday morninq and that a
T Tnited Airäincs pilot by the na'E1e of e flew with Caotain —.:bien they
The caller stated he was for San
were shot at over Yontana.
-1 be back Tuo
—and
i' _ pr.'ii_ttle effort to question t) .e anonymous ce.l.-,er A o obtain his identity
they felt it vt•as useless and that if they start.cd. questioning hirn he
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refuse to furnish erv further infomation.
Vn Ai.wi.iSL Specxaa-
contacted in the resident agency office, Tacoma, Washington by
At this time —asked If the Seattle Office was investigation the crash
of the B—25 and he was Infomed that no investigation was being by
the Seattle Office. —at this time related in rambling story that he
had picked up some strange rock formations *hich he had forwarded to a friend0
of his in the University of Chicago to have analyzed and that Later, in gome
manner unknown to him, these rock fortrations had been reported as being frag—
ments of a ga.ying disc,
On August 7, 1947
viewed it the Tacoma resident agency office. Both
ere inter—
at first
denied any •knowledge of how the rock fomatlons which they had picked up to
have alalvzed became connected with the nylng disc stories. Both
uking any statement to anyone that these rock fomatåons were portions of a
It ves apparent fran the start of the intenriew that—and
fragnent ,
ere not tel linc their canplete and true connection with the flying
disc story, They refused to cive any definite infomation as to what they said
gave evasive answers ard repeatedly stated that they had nothing to do with it
and were .at a loss to how they became connected Flth the flying disc
they stated that an the early part of
June.åhey sent to—f Publi_shing which published
th4Fant.asy magazine in Chicago and -tie magaziné* Ev-äöün, lil.inois
some rock femiauons• which they had found on Maury Island, They stated they
gent these fomations, asking—o have them analyzed, They that
later —mote and asked for more samples, advising he had failed t.o analyze
-amra AR
and that the next they heard re arding the rock fomations which they had sent
•nd asked if the rock fomatione could
—Jas when he caned
stated he made some .that they possibly
have cane frm a flying disc.
could have cane fran a flyinz disc and that he ImediAteIy et dom and wrote
a letter to— %hlch •as in the latter part of dune in which he
the material could ave been portions of a flying disc. ciaå.med he
over the phone sanethlng about being in his boat when
thought, he told
he obtained these rock fomations, but stated he could not recali what he had
A.A.A +_ha+- "hole t.h{nø of r as a loke-
ere questioned at length in an attenpt to obtain specific
infomatipn as to exactly *hat each one had done y:ith regard to the mck Coma—
tlons. However, each stated that the only they had done was ten—
the formations could have come
Uthat what he "BXited tham to
flying disc dory.
fran a flying dige In view of the fact it appeared
gay", No definite could be obtained
to What each specifically had done to 'tart the

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—and in v:hi.ch they ac'uni.tted the rocÄ formations ha.d no connection with
any flying discs is being forwarded to the Bureau herev.'ith.
The statement
contains no infomation of value and therefore is not being set forth herein.
Regarding the meeting v;hich was held {n the Hotel
on Thursday ' —stated they both
They stated that they all left —rco.m about
there about 1:00 P.
and that —took
o :.irport at and
o zerr•y
•flew Vlis plane to Ceattle he oicked up Captain
—stated that he picKed up
Dérryls i.irport about 5: C
• and that room about 7:00 P. r.
A Cln +
to get his car and that —went hane at this time. —stated they
returned about 11:30 P. at which time the Army Intelligence officers. were
in room and that —eft about midnight ,
he stated thet he
returned to —room Friday afternoon for approximately one-half hour
from 2:30 to 3:00 P,
at i.'hich time —and •were still there anc
neither seemed to be ahle to rccall if in
room on
Ait-zzust, I. The best that coald be obtained from — as what
took place in
room was to the effect that most of the
v.tas about
f that no one seemed very interested in the rock formations and that
they had no connection as far as they knew with any flying disc •
Stated that —tvanted to obtain pictures of the place where the
rock formations være obtained and that the Amy Intelligence cfficers did
aDpear to be interested in any manner whatever.
. ,illwater Avenue,
Tacoma, ,.ashington and
ao recer.tly been
workino with hin buying timber.
They have also been associated with
. atrol Association at Tacoma, Washington which furnishes patrol and poliÜe
tection to parts of the harbor area which are not patrolled by Tacoma police
or Sheriff's officers,
Tacoma, "..ashineton
Amy serial number— During the war e was a px o and it is believed
presently holds a Reserve Officer s commission as a Captain.
Recarding the B—25 which crashed, Icillincz Captain DICL!ZDCC.N
•znd Lieutenant of the Æ+th Aire Forces, Captain
Officer, Ilc Chord Field, advised that this investigation of the crash reflected
nn exhaust stack had burned out on the left en"ine v;hich in turn caught the
The plane at thc tine of the crash was carrying Captain DAVIDSCN,
Lieutenant BRO.ÆI, the hitch—hiker and a man as Crew Chief to take care of the
The Crev; Chief and the hitch—hiker parachuted to safety, but, Captain
airplane.
He stated that their
DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BRC.!1v• were killed,
reflected no indication of any sabotage
investiratiun
at
'{Jashington
view nrive.
check of thc records of the u'int,hrop Hotel
revealed that giving his address as
Boi sea Idaho rented room 502 f Tom .T]17x.r At. '7 P

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The following information v.'as obtained by Special
Aoent
n interview on August 12, Captain
It should be noted that
United Airlines pilot :
as previously received publicity for having supposedly seen
Captaxn
flying discs or sin,ilar objects on July 14, last while on a routine Unit
lines flight out of Boise, Idaho in cmparv v;ith his co—pilot
Captain —tates that they took off fro .
- •.oise,
concerning this incident,
'acaded t.,'orthwest at 300 degrreec z nd Gul'. I. clivn•
Idaho 2:12
OCC feet, co—pilot —called his ztUc•atior. to .30me objects -Ira the
sky ahead of about ten decrees left neither one could identify,
—tates that he called a CAA radio operator at Ontario, Crezon reques—
ted h Ün to step outside his radio shack and see if he cou)d see any c.f these
objects overhead. The CAA radio operator replied in the negative.
Captain —states that he first met
ly 5 in the offices of the
v.•.here both be:zr.c,
i! -erviewed concerning their sighting of f
disc G
next .';tet —•bout, three weeks at•o in Boise, Idaho at time be,
on another flir•-ht through Boise, Idaho ana had a ten .m,ipute lay—over there,
Cn thi.s occasion
Lieutenant rRÅ•,•.:,
in company of Captain and
Alny Intelligence officers, and a
next contact with
urs.öa•qr
was on
•
calÄnr.- frc.'n 2 aco
July 31, Inst when he received a telephone call fron
in the carly aftcrnoon at 'i.•hich time he asked Oto over to Tacc,ma arid.
•oas investigating. a flying disc story for ttsovneone bac!c ' ',aottl
hin as he
i.n c: eei.r.ü.
Light be i alter,
and sone i rarraent$ nvc,lved which
and
creed to join
some dist.ü30ion
—he would fly over sad pick him up at 'Boeizvv
at IV.CCJ Y.
met —at Boeing Field at about P,
•nd the," flew to Derry f
c Ax roort
•ne three of then
at •Tacoma, ,trashi . ton they were met by
occupying
car to the Ilinthrop flotel 'ithere
proceeded in
order d something to eat and during this tine either
room "2,
or
this time
nd invited him up to •ne room.
ailed a
Oates he had learned from —that
;erc tho parti—
state: th
cipantc in the latest, flying disc story and
ac Piuaintance Viith of thesc Inen before -cet,.inc
L.hc!.'. in 'Tncorau or.
in tl!C 1101 "I Roo„l shovicd e.l letter l.hicil bc
had
—of the Venture Press of Chicago requesting that i.].vestigate
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i
the —¯story in
19,
Lirae that
i
this letter he had caned — by telenhone in Chicago
after receiving
as a result of which call had forwarded hian $200.00 expense money
for covering the story. Shortly thereafter, at about 7
arrived at the Yotel room and the discussion began among the four men present
—had seen on professed
tance to tell the story, cloi-•n Lnc that several unfortunate incic-,eta
occurred subsequent to his seeing the flying discs and he believed the entire
incident had brought hjxn bad -luck.
In this connection stated that four or
five days subseeuent to his sighting the flying discs, a man called at his
home and had a conversation vd th hin the course of wliichÄwas warned to
forget all about everything he had seen on or near Island
• In addition
to that, stated that his sixteen year old son had run away from home
following the incident and had been picked up by the police somewhere in
Montana. After some further discussion
finally agreed to tell his story
of the flying disc incident in front of
fter eliciting a promise from
—that he would not discuss the matter for at least two weeks.
should
be noted that
had previously told
story to
this point
related the incident which has already been
and.
he a]2eeed had taken place on or about June 23 or relating the
incident—lentioned that he had taken pictures of the f I,ying disc v.hich
he had seen but that the printed fibns v.•ere marred viith white spots.
had concluded his story,
"elated that he had gone the followina
day o Maury Island to verify wh
had told hå•n concerning the fragpnents
and had at this time picked up several fragments and taker. them vd •QI him.
At
this tirne —related that he also saw one of the flying discs hovering
over the Island but that it had disappeared into a cloud,
*Jad finished tel linc their story —told the croup that he had e.,rLier in
that evening called Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BEC. .tst., Army Intelligence
officers and that they were on their way to the Hotel room, At this pointe
protested that he did not wish to tell his story before anyone else and he
was advised by g that if such was the case idntt he just leave and aot
be there when they a rived,
then left the room ana
drove back to Boeing Field
"ent downstairs,
departed a one.
near Seattle l'ihe
desired to picac up his own personal car, which he c. id.
They then returned to the Hotel where the r found Captain DAVIDSON and Iåeutenant
in room 502 wit
rnet them at the door and seemed
excited, explaining to
hat Captain DAVIDSON had just, drawn a reoroduction
a frealc disc which had supposedly been seen by a •t:oman in Arizona
this drav:ing nas an exact reproduction of the flying disc Which he, had
seen several before, nearing Mt. Rainier,
states that shortly
a oer
seemed verv anxious to tell is and
this
story to the offi—
Refore this was done, however,
had a discussion '.}ith Lieutenant
cers.
infonni him th: t they had proto-isede not to release t,he .sucry for
tan v;eeks and t.hat if to tell the story at this
D !bVTD3CbT aoree not to release the story for one month,
FCi17 0,.inc this
asreement
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F0110V'inc this recitation, Lieutenant
said he Cantain
fin ansi,er to a query from
of
the opinion there might be some truth in the current flying disc stories,
but that their i-mediate superiors (presumably at Elemilton Field) did not
agree vrit,h them. BRCi.FÅ and DJIVIDJCN then held a brief discussion as to v;hetner
they should return that sane night to P.amilton Field and they
decidcd that
{11 fivc of the mcu then went to the lobby where
{ahey would,
detached Viünself from the croup and entered a phone booth to call for a ca
from •.!cChord Field, —also left the croup and net DROI outside t,hc ne
booth -where they held a short discussion relative to the credibilitow
• to he should to
out if the story was on the level and that would call hixn the following
day regarding this matter. The group then proceeded to the front of the Hotel
at which time —Drought his car to the front of the Hotel and took f rara
his trunk a box of the alleged flying disc fragnents picked up on Island,
offered them to BRC..u and DAVIDSON and When the i'•.rmy car arrived frolfl YcC'nord
Field the box of frat-nents v;as placed in the car with the officers.
departed alone and search Of to
and later
returned to the Yotel for the night.
from
On Friday morning, August 1, 1947, —received a call
infoming him thet a B—25 ha.d crashed during the night and it
believed to be the same plane which and DAVIDSON v;ere flying. Fo owing
this call —ande came to the Hotel room and from the roan
azain called McChord Field in an attempt to get infomation about the crash,
ook the phone from—nd spoke to a Colonel identifyii.c
- I-mseL1 and. askinø i 1 the v.ituch crasaed was ohe on x 1.7 one v.rnxcn had
off from I.IcChord Field the previous night. —told him that it vas,
ing this call —ailed — in Chicago and *informed him of the
previous night's conversations and the fact that DAVIDSON and v.ere believed
to have been killed. —old —to discontinue his investiG?tion of
the incident and that he, —was no longer interested. —then took
the phone from —and asked —if he could shed any lirht on the
situation. unable to say what reply to
lowing these telephone discussions
i r} enf.•i n R f end of' h * R 2nd a.rl
—ct,atcs that, he had pre.ViousIJ mud
•reener:t, vrith
xn
Chicago that should he ever run across any flying disc stories which s'.:ovjed
romise of news value, that he would contact —and this call was a result
of that agreejnent, Shortly afterward, Colonel —called him from ord
Field stQting that Hamilton Field had requested
and —submit their addresses to Hamilton Field tor convenience of anv .;.r..y
investigation of the incident which may be forthcoming. After this call the
{'our men went to a restaurant for lunch, Durinc the course of this meal—
excused himself from the table and attempted to call SAC DCBDITT of tho Port—
land Field CRT ice, Federal Bureau of Investigatio I uith "hom he clti-as e:cquain-
Lance, BOBBITT, however, was unavailable and
v;as anable to cone-ete the
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August
call, After rctnrninc to the I}otel room, a
attem tin" to cain infomation, but thcy did
called and
but refused to give out infomation,
19, 194'?
not give him arvo l.ater, a '.12',
poke to håxn on the telephone
further relates that while
the four men were in the room at this ti.rne, an envelope shoved under the
door and that he retrieved it from the floor, —states that thc appearance
considerably and that in fact
of this envelope seemed to startl
rea the note unsigned which was a caxnu—
turned white as a sheet until
nication to the Hotel advising that a strike of Hotel employees was eminent and
that guests should not ex ect room and telephone service much lorcer. Shortly
eft the Hotel after promising to
after this incident
take —to Maury Island the following mornin' , (Saturclay).
ound a note in
and—then went out for dinner and on •their return,
e did this fran
the box requesting him to call a certain tele hone ntunber,
the Ilotel room and was answered bye
who requested
—to zo out and call from a pay station,
complained and was
infomcd two anonyrnous telephone calls had been received by
him that a discussion regarding flying diccs had been takinc place in room 502
at the Uinthrop Hotel which involved Amy Ir.telligence officers,
From the
infonnation
was convinced that the anonymous
caller must havc been present at the discuscion also, as—was seninely
in possession of pertinent Which had been made In the room,
states that he did not give—ny further infomation and that in conclu—
'ion of the can, he returned to the Hotel room and he and—retired for -
the night,
phone call from
On Saturday morning, 2, received a tele—
in Chicago, but was unable to give hå.m any
dvised hi.m, however, that he would call him ba
further infomation.
and
hen called fran a coffee shop nearby and
nd an unknown man in the Coffee Shop for
and left after breakfast, On leaving the coffee shop,
breakfast, The unknown person was discussing some lumber business
about
the negatives of the photographs which he claimed to have taken of the flying
discs. —said the negatives were in the glove compartment of his car, but/ -8
a search of the instant clove compartment fruitless, four then pro-a / (
ceeded Ines car to the dock v:here they v;ere to embark for Uaury Island,
The boat, however, could not be started and the trip was postponed until later
i'hile at the dock, however, —sked to be shovm the danaze
in the day.
to the boat which had allegedly occurred *hen the fragments showered down on
Maury Islard. —pointed out That may have been repairs to the
and lights on the boat, but —was not personally satisfied that these repairs
were • made a result Of such
and—back to the Hotci at approximately 10;1+5 k, and —told them
he would can them later on and that they would C0 to :taaury Island, On roturn—
ing to the Hotel —called the Tacoma Tü-aes as a recult of which
at the Coffee Shop across the 8treet fran the
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august 19, 1047
Hotel. ect&ted that the 'e'rrpose of this mcetinc v:ras to try to
find oat something more about the anonymous phone calls which
had told
He and —still refused to give out any further information
hilli about,
—and were infomed by
the Thursday evening conference to
that the —was afraid of being scoooed on the stop: find goinr
to print sometlnng on that day. •and then returncd to 4 -h'
and shortly thereafter received a phone from but the call was
cut off 'oy the switchboard operator since it v..as not an ernercency
hen returned to the flotel lobby v;here they found a telecrarn fro-:
— asxanc them to call hin at either Broadway or Froctor
sure of the exchange, —a 1 led this nuaber, but —uas not there,
states that he v;cnt then to the Union Telegra h Office a.nd di.spatched
which contained a
a collect
brief rest-une of the incidents '"hich had occurred and which requested to
—a telephone nunber v.vhere— could be reached 2 f ter 6:CC .
wire
st&tes that he has never received an answer tc that wire. Follov:ing
v.•ere sittirl& in tl-,e
he and
this, states thüt he and
• and €c-ve each
lobby of the Votel l.•hea
ct,or'er hintir,r•
12 test editioa of thc vdlich cont,
in the crash of the Amy B— 5 •which killed Captain DhVID3CY Lieutenant
—stated th
continued to occupy seats in the Not eI lobb'
a I.. he and
most of the afternoon inasmuch as they were unable to receive calls in the Potel
He relates thot he received
call
room due to the Hotel a.np10yeesT strike,
'lie late afternoon —advisinc 'film to
evenln.- at
-1 : 30 as = had further information regarding the anon'$nous calls.
Z.-so
receivéd c tel c uran requestinrr that he can
lift-Rch lie did
cive
However, shortuy thereafter,
f 'Arther infornlation at this tine,
any
calla
from boise and advised that the had released a story thro'ic•h Pri rye-dier
teneral 3HPuar, revealing the confid entia 1 assigrment which BRC' and n:.iiI.ÜSC.1i.-
been engaged on, In viev; of this release, —requested to
n.;ere they carryxnc rany a2eged disc frat-menis
one quesoion for htm was,
l'Yes, they v.ere.lt Following this
on the plane? U and
as per his earlier request and was infon,ked that
cal led
Iriad received another anonymouo phone call at which time u -ie v: ice"
t L he D—25 carprinr Cantain
ind nant
snells that the ..trine plane found c:. -
rainier had also been shot down uith 20 m em. shells, •The voice v.rer,t on to
thnt —vould be called back to Z. irizht. Fi eld on Tuesday,
, sked why he giving out this information the czller replied that, it
not for the benefit of the newspapers, bat that he interested in seein"
Thc voice also inforned
that the infomation got back to LA.!ew Jersey.
at this time that onc of the two persons who had. becn talkinz to and
had now left for illaska. As a result of this latter 'ai-t of
.ad left town.
lie located
decided to find ont if
hotel and
at the Junset an
y phone and —left saying that
ey were unable to locate
was and that he would call them tomo ow ( Sunday '
try to find out Where
and that they would go out to Maury Island at that time.
After
crt,
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August
the
and took them to —in the
latest press releases and had a discussion with
in the course of this discussion
mous phone calls.
19;
era
ihcre they rc•'- le
regarQinc the anony
mentioned the
name Of Public Relations Officer at McChord Field as
being one of the officers interested in the investigation.
Following this discussion
tates they still refused to divulge any information
returned to the Hotel for the night.
On Sunday morning, August 3, 191v7, —appeared at the
Hotel room and told them that he had received a letter from —which said
in effect 'ETake care of my business.
It 11 be out of town for three or four
days." —had a letter with him but he did not show it to
secretary ts house in south Tacoma and
three men then drove to
nicked ner un and the 1 our ox Lüern Gnen nenu 00 orealccasu on I-ne DOU ora l'acana
ighuay. '.•mile the four of the:n then went t.o break?ast —en-cusea
' •z,self
ane called Field
an
They took
hill at. the flotel lobb, at 11 A,
nome where e picked up a typewriter and then drove
to the Hotel, They asked him if he was going to take them to i c land
day and he replied that he was not, He further stated that he was sick of the
entire business and that if he was ever contacted by the Anny or the author
v;as coing to deny ever having seen anything and claün to be Ifthe big zest liar
the lobby and they ',vent in
nroceeded to tell {fiajor
occurred in Tacoma rerardin the
car to a coffce $h0D 2.i'i couth Tacoma acre
the entire storv of thc incid.e1!v5 %ihich
and
afternoon. Following this,
ook 'Lla •or
.rsday
otopy since
back to the Hotel int.ro—
that he also i.;ell
duced him to
and suggested to
afber loo.kinz
entire story of v; at had occurred, — did so,
at the fragnents were still in the room suggested that they drive out
tve ünelter near Tacoma as he believed the slag at the Smelter uould toe -r a
distinct resemblance to these fraznents.
ane three ,men then drove t(.z
be definitelv Ia.r to the fragments
"r ' a c noted
and had •Icft in •the hotel room.
m Ul.•krned to tile l•otel room
left
their bacs,
'L rport where his olane was parked and then—drove hinnself back Sc:ntle.
About an hour after his arrival in Jeattle
"Nhlcb was
approximately : 30 1- , the appeared at
home
with the newsp(.per containing the {esociated Press story v,'hich had ori •
.11* Boise, Idaho in the Ctat.estnan and 'e.'hich v;as by follo.li
whission to him t.hat fratr!nents had been carried by Lieutenant
tirac to
Captain on thc fatal 13-25 flight.
refuse to give any statements for the Press and told — he
placed
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August 19, 192+7
all of his information in the hands of the f•.rrny. —stated that a couple
Of he and asked if there
wa ny recent infomation concerning the incident. —states that—
infomed him that —'lad not yet been contacted, but that the
Federal Bureau of Investigation was "setting a trap for hint'. —urther
advises that on Friday, August 8, 1947, he appeared before lawyer
at the County—City Building, Seattle and made a deposition of the facts relating
to the incidents in Tacoma from 'hursday aftemoon, July 31, last until Sur-day
morning, August 3, last,
A copy of this deposition is now in possession of the writer
and is being forwarded herewith to the Bureau, It should be noted that this
deposition is in no way as complete as the statement taken by the writer above
and any setting out of this deposition In this communication would be superfluous,
Copies of this communication are being sent to the Butte,
Portland, San Francisco and Chicago Offices for their infomation only. Unless
advised by the Bureau to the contrary, instant investication is considered closed
by this office.
For the infomat±on of the bureau, Captai
Intelligence Officer, McChord Field, Ft. Lewis, Washington advised a the weekly
Inteliågence conference that the Fubiic Relations Officer
at ÆcChord Field had received a tele>hone call fran an individual at Anr,y Air 7 (
Forces Headquarters at D, C. , during which can the Public Relations
which
Officer was requested to obtain a signed statement from
further
could be published and thus publicly close the natter, Captain
related that he had no additional infomation in this matter and that he did
not handle it.
ENCLOSURES
100-18945
CC - Butte
Port länd
San Francisco
Chicaco
Very truly yours ,
ECK B. IÄLCO••
Special
Agent
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.54,
STATE or )
ca-nrry or
being first duly sworn, on oath, deposes
and gays:
This a narrative statement ag to what took place in
Tacoma from Thursday, July 31 until Sunday, August 3.
Thursday I reoelvea a telephone call from Tacoma from a
The gist of this conversation was that he thought
t vould be a good Idea for to oome to Taco and I IBten to the
of tvo nea whose names were
two prev OUB
once on July • 5
at the off Ico of the P, Ie In Seattle for a very brief time and the
second time in Boise, Idaho vaen I wag passing through on one of
my trips,
In thig conversation with—on Wie phono, I made tl
8tateent that it would be Impossible for me to go over to Tacoma
due to my going out to Salt Lake City the next morning, He Bald
that he would fly over from face a ick me up at Boeing Field
IC to this proposition from
At 4 0'clock I met
C the Boeing Yield and we back and landed Qt Barry '8
We were picked up at the airport b—
Airport,
drove the two of us Into the Winthrop Hotel. We •eat up to Room
502
put a telephone oaii into
e come up to the room. A half hour later
asked him wo
men the
—to relate hig etory as to took place on June 24, Mr.
and
very hesitant about tel I Ing the story to me.
C ur, —were already aware of tho statements that
had
previous, Yr. — made the etatement to me that If any
he relative to his gtory, If I •maid keep It confident.
for two weekB, that he felt definitely that I would want to forge
the whole thing. I made the statement to that as far as
wag ooncerned, I wmüå keep any statements he made to me mnfiden
for at least two weeks,
Bere lg Btory: On June 24 (this date to be cheo
who owns the Barboz
later) he wag in a boat owned b
boc
Patrol In Taoona. They —- ur,
eon age 16, were cruising around Maury Island looking for logs th
had bmke.n away from boms, They were fairly close to shore of
Maury Igland when they eaw four or five ob300tB In the sky at an
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100 feet In diameter, circular In Bhapa, and It appeared that
there wag a bole In the center of each as he could gee the sky
through this hole. Ee algo mentioned that on the inside of the
olrcle or the hole. that portholeg were visible. Their speed was
negligible aB they- appeared to hover over a given epot. One of
theee objects appeared to be ia trouble. Another obdect cane
over and appeared to make conbact. After making contact for
approximately tvo minutes, it rose to Its original pogitlon,
At thie time the obj eot that appeared to be in trouble
genea eo throw a iot of debris tram one of the portholes. These
ob3eotB then disappeared tron view. Bome of this debris that
Landed broke an the wheelhouge of the boat. ue spotlight, and
tho klaxon, While thie debris was failing, boy and
got off the boat and hid under some logge This debris that e
killed our dog and a oea gum. I agked —what was done wit.
the doge Be æde the statement they threw the dog into the water.
story was told to ur. who the next day
went out to thIB IBIand to check on thig story. He verified the
fact of the to the boat, also to the fact that there appear
—algo gtated that while he wag over there investigating on
Maury Iglanå, he also Baw a disk, This disk was of the game ghape
and ag the obåects expialnea by
fop me AR eo me
he wag Invegtlgatlne thig story. ur, siated tiaé he reoelv•
a from a ur.
Evanston, Illinois. The gist of this letter was that
received a letter fron Mr. —and also a
okage of then fragments that were found on Maury Elana. ur,
also made the Btatement in the letter that the Chicago
University failed to analyze these fra- entg and that would ur,
wag gent a Western Unloa
plæse Investigate the story.
-nn ne arnenge e.hnE he mlæht Inour
this
—haa made a telephone call to Hamilton Eleid t
contact a Captain Davidson and a Lieutenant Brown, who were With
at Hamilton WOU.id the a
to 118ten to ChlB story of —nd
trip to Tac
acquainted me with the fact that he had made t e
When Mre
phone oaii In front of Ll.r, ur, —made the statement that
made the statement to -ethöt he felt- this way, that he
should not be in the room "hen these two Intelligence officere
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Lic
Page 43
ett the hotel rom to
go ra as
some metai üat In
wan e
the baok of hig oar Bhat he had picked up on Maury Island, to
bring back to the hotel room, ur.
At this time I mde statement to Mr.
should like to pick up my car in Seattle, Mr.
that 1
drove me to
F.
Booing Seattle. After leaving me at Boe ne Field, he drove
baok to Tacoma ana I dmve my own oa.r back to Taoomne After I had
put ny oar in ue garage at Tacoma, I yen up to the Finthrop Botel
ana in the at that Cine
Davidson frm Amy Intelligence. Lieu enan Brown was downstairs
cettang gandwlches end coffee,
When Lieut. Erown came back, the
stories were again related and Lieut, Brown raade statement that
an the facts of these stories would be hold in striccegt oonfiden«
until released by Mr.
had told all the facts, relating not
After ur,
only his own story but at oc he agked for ue opinion
of both officers as to what they thought, Lieut. Brown made the
statement that he would like to obtain some or these to
take back to Ham-tlt.on Tleld,
At this time Capt. mvid90n ana Lieut, Brown were debatl
the thought as to whether to Ebay over night in Taooma or leave fo:
Bantlton Eleid immeuately, as the B—25 they were flying wag
guppoged to be at Haallbon Neld the next day for the Air *tow,
The five of ug then left the hotel room and vent down to
the hotel iobb7 where Mr. a telephone cali to McChord
Pleld asking thn to gend a driver to pick up Capt. Davidson and
himself, Lieub, Brown cano up to me and made tho Bbateaent that h'
ana Capt. were going back to ton Yield and that he
would get in touoh vith me tomorrm'å and If after I haa eeen the
fragments on Uaury Island, I thought in ny «n mand that thia
wag authenbio, they would immediately leave Hamilton Fiold and
return. I wag to hold this statement by Lieut. Brown in
etrlotest of oonfideaoe the other group ot three
and
We then went dmn to the atreet where
arovo
car up in front and took out a box of and gave
is box
Davidson and Brown, While waiting for the driver from UoChord Fle
Lieut. Broun and I discussed Paolflo operations and thingg not per
talning to this mission, Cape, aeon and Lieut. Brown departed
and I vent back to our hotel
approximately 12 ; 45 A,u, Mr.
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s.
Friday the 1st; At approximately 8 ot clock In the
morning, ur, oallea up our hotel room and acquainted us
vith the tact that the B—25 had crashed. Also that he had called
NoChora Yield and from Information he received algo verified the
fact that the two men In the were Capt. Davidson and Lieut.
Brown, plus a flight engineer and a hitch-hiker, This left both
—nd myself In a very bad state of concerne Approximate
ly an hour later ur, and Mr.—made their appearanoe In
the hotel rom, I gti-I i wasn't sure that thie was the same B-25
e two Inbelllgenoe officers had left in last night. Mr.
than again oaliea MoChord Yield and talked to a Colonel
a the fact vag verified again that Che tvo pilote vere
mvldson and Brown,
After an hour or BO ur. —and left the
l' a hotel room with a pian in mina of the sour of us meeting the mxt
(C morning (Saturday) for breakfast and going out to Maury IBland,
That evening (Friday) there vag a message for me to call
thIB particular telephone number that vae on the message, I
number ena was asked by the party to please call the from a
pa stataon, This party was a a —on the —
Be told me, RI most certainly dung myself out of a eoc
story but I thought you ought to know that somebody hag been
thiB paper giving us a desorlption Oz tuRt.uE
taken piace your rom since you arrived." To verify this, ur,
—repeated back to me ugcusslons that I felt haa only been
taking place In our
Mr.—algo ue etatemont that there vas a leak
either from the switchboard operator or our room had been tapped,
I asked ur, —vhy he wag tipping ug off with
Be made the that he didn't mind doing thig if In return
that any Ehab
üOü.•u Vö vv
I vent baok to our roæ and
After thig oonvergation ur,
toxa. ur. üat uok plaw e telephone,
Saturday morning: ur.
for breakfast, We t
to the 1B and, Tho boat wag unserviceable at the time 80 we went
back to the hotel, ur, said that he would call later on
In the day and let us knovt' whon tho boat would be repaired, That
Approximately ii otolock Saturday morning Mr. —
honed me and made the Btatæent It would be impossible for him t
eep this appointment with me, We were cut off by me gwltohbær
operator as this was olasslfled as not an anergency oall, The
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Page
8:30
me
this
{5
ailed up ana said If I would 0211 him at
that even ng, he would have gome additional information for
I oailed Zab 8:30 that evening, Ile told me that
anonymous Of
and said that one or the parbIe8 that Mr. and
I had come down to gee was flown to Alaska. AIBO he mde the stal
ment ur. —vould be called to Wright Field Tuesday. ThlB
anonymous caller made the etabement to Mr. —that this B-25
wag •ot down, asked tbIB person calling what his
Interegt •as. thIB anonymous oaiier made a etqtement — "Don't th3
I am for the newspapera. All I am Interested In Ig eeeiz
that thig Infomation gets back to Sergey. •
After I finished the conversation bith
I went
and d him
over to the United Press and talked with ur
a with thig
read back to me the conversations that he ha
anonymous ceiler, But no opinions at thig time were voiced eithez
by me or
Bunday morning I caned a XL Sor of McChord
meid and asked h'm to meet me at the Winthrop Hotel at ii o'clocl
I met this k Jo—at ii o'clock and we drove to a small oofS
shop on. the Tacoma Highway where this complete story related 1
'de then drove back the Winthrop Hotel where Yaa or
wag Introduced to —by me and again iistenea to
story, ur. 1 departed the Winthrop
Hotei Sunday afternoon at approximately 4: 300
This 1B to certify that the foregoing statement wag tak
before •e, a notary public; that prior to making said atatament, I
witnees•wae first sworn to tell the whole truth and nothing but
truth' that the statement was then reducea to writing and signed
day of August, 1947,
me on the
IN WITNESS 1 have hereunto ny hand and
geal the day and year laet above written.
o ary u .c nan or 0
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to
a, 1947
met:e the feltntary St. tex.-.cnt
of the Federal bureau of Investigati on.
1 fcked ul-•. soxne strance rock fcn•etions
hoc
sout a box (cicar)
frc•• a oravel pit on kaury Island, iashinrtone
of these fray-.ent3 to —of Venture i..acazine et Evenstorå a Ilincis
to have It analyzed,
Later —•mote and asked Tor samr.les statinc thc.' t
failed to have the..k analyzed.
Around the later purt of June a fev.' days after the first disc stories
started —ontacteä us by phone. Be told us not to tell the news-
par,ers üout the fracments and he would pay for an exclusive story If
the could be from a fl.
(MSC.
Cne of us told hi; the fragnents eould have been from e flying disc.
Just • after our Alone conversation —wrote e letter toe
—etti ng out notes etc, reeardine the frayaents and
catir-c they could have come from T lying discs.
The next thfrc we heard Vias about the first of July when cot E
nd /
'IYar.G Ocean h•ess telegram from Chiceco askinc about these f Ivi
d iéc gragments.
We told them to Corset the entire matter.
The next we heard of these fracments wes when we were called by
.3
we told
to
sent
o meet with him in the 'öinthrop Hotel on July 31,1 47
him exactly how be had found the fragments and had foxyarded then
to be ahalyzed.
thc nntir€: end true stoi•y as recurds our connecti or: Olth
disc storie•s etc. •whic oriEinated 0',er the cre üzr.rles v,hlck•.
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offce Mel,
dum ,
UNITED
DATE:
GOVERNMENT
111 ; 19h7
TO
FROM
The Director
D. M. I-add
FLYING DISCS
SUBJECT;
In connection with your request to be advised as to the facts
concerning newspaper reports of flyinrr discs in the Portland area and the
* son
. C .exe
Rosen
rr. Tracy
car scn
z ..rrea
arbo
Hendon
Pennlr.é or,
Qu Inn
Tele. koom
a P.mv n f f' i in Por}. 1 and nontner•n-; nc• nr d i. .•ns 2 .xr.
the ibrtland Office has advised thät Leaveritt G. Richards, ation
has stated that Captain Lif)avidson
editor of the UOregonian,
0-1 ss Bear-'t
L'Iss Genåy
.6
own of the Fourth Headquarters, San Francisco,
and Lieutenant Frank
were in Fortland on Ju y 27, 19117. 17hi1e in Ibrtland they interviewed Dick
Rankin, an experienced pilot, who had reported that he observed, on Ju.ne 1)4,
Richards added
a t'on;ut.ion of ten flying discs over Bakersfield, California.
that Davidson and Erovm had also interviewed the following four experienced
•pilots who were anong the first to report seeing discs, business-nan
from Boise. Idaho: CaDtain E. J. E a co—oilot; RaloWStevens, Uni bed Airlines
and Da*Johnson, aviation editor, In order to deter:nlne the
purpose of these interviews Richards contacted Major General of Field
Ohio, and from him gained the impression that the instituted this •investigation
to wash out the disc reports since they are definitely not of Ail? origin.
On Friday, August I, the plane in which AAF investigators, Captain
Davidson and Lieutenant Brovm, were flyirv„
crashed at Kelso, Fiashington and both
were killed. The wreckage was screened by AAF Intelligence from McChord Field.
Thc "Tacorna News Tribunett and through them tae United Press put out a story that
the plane carrying {Erts of a disc which had struck a boat owned bj
Dahl and Fred Chrisman. It has also been inferred that this plane v.as sabotatred
to prevent these disc parts from being examined.
*TUS
Investigation by the Bureau has reflected that this plane was ;.iefinitely
not carrying parts of a disc and t"aere appears to be no substantiation of a sabotdge
charge .
For your further infornution there is attached a blind memorandum setting
forth in more detail the results of tho investigation surrouqding the above plane
cnzsh. No further inquiry is being ;aade in tms matter.
Air Force Intelligence has been advised of
INDEXEI
the resulbs of our investi—
ga vion,
R.C-r:mjp
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August IL, 19147
mscs
The •tacoma Neys Tribune*l and through them the United Press put out
z story that an amy plane which was allegedly carrying of a disc Thich
had struck a boat owned by Harold Dahl and Fred Chriæzn had crashed on Auguet
i, 19b? , killing two Air Force Intelligence officers who were interviewing
persons Tho were alleged to have seen flying diB0ß.
and
when interviewed by Bureau Agents,
191.17, that in the early part of June,
cent on August
advised in a signe s
19147, they picked up some strange rock fomxations frotr. a gravel pit on itauri
Is&xnd, Washington. They sent a ci ar box of these formtions to ne—
also Of the
f the
in Chicago, Illinois. Accorü'&g to them they requested
to make only a analysis of rock fomztions. —then wrote
asking for additional samples stating he had been unable to amlyze the
dÄre.m-rkod that a few gays after the flying disc stories appeared
e—ont.acted them by telephone saying he •ouid
urina the latter P*rt of June
for in exclusive story if the materials they had sent him were fragnents of
a flying disc: he wrote—a letter in which he re esented the
admitted
and
uterial as being a P*rt of a flying disc, and bot
that this statement entirely falee.
and —then received a call fran one Of
Boise, Idaho who roquested them to meet him at the Winthrop Hotel in on
July 31, 1917. According to t,hæ —ailed in amy intelligence officer
f United Airlines
fmm Hamilton Field, California and one Capt.ain
unintained
d
of Seattle, to attend this meeting.
they told the intelligence officers Captain Davidson, Lieuterunt brown—
—exactly how they got the mck forxtions and that they
ad no connection any flying discs. —and 8tated that they then
furnished sane of the rock fomution to the intelligence officers us samples,
Davidson and Lieutenant left Tacna, Washincton in a B—25
to return to Hamilton Field, California about 2:30 A .N, August i, 19147, and vere
••killed when their plane crashed at Kelso, Washington, after the left engine
burned out an exhaust stack which {n tum caucht the left Vine on fire *hich caused
it to
thre
-270
break off. The crew chief and each officer to safety.
at Tacom advised trut two or
days after e flying dise story started he cont.acteee to cysck thc story
COPIES DESTROYED
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the Z/c
to Tacon.i and obtain a story them regarding the flying disc fragments.
On July 31 and Ausust I, a total of five anonymous calls were
received by a —nd at
civinz information regarding the meeting at the Winthrop Hotel over uue disc C
fragaents and Stating that the B—25 had been shot dom or sabotaged Thich
killed Captain and Leutenant mwn, inferring that this was done
because the intelligence officers were carrying disc fragments in their plane.
stated that exese calls could only have ceme from
who, they stated, had a friend on the Chicago /
themselves,
Times and was possibl selling the etory to the Chicago Times through tMs 7 C
denied TB'dng these calls,
friend.
stated that/ reporter— of the Tace
upon inte
in Tacma had informed him that
—had several anonymous calls and the accuracy of the inforcatdon b
they were Nde b; either

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. r. E. osoa
VGW
FBI B E-
RECTOR, FBI
5-45 PM
URGENT
FLYING .DISCS,
ON INSTANT DATE
F TWIN FALLS, IDAH
INFORMED LOCAL NEWSPAPER THAT COMMUNITY THAT AT ONE PM ON WEDN DAY
LAST, AUGUST THIRTEEN, HE AND TWO SONS BILLIE, AGE TEN, KEITH,
AGE EIGHT, SAW AN OBJECT NINE MILES NORTHWEST OF TWIN FALLS, RE-
SEEDLING FLYING DISC,
TATED THIS OBJECT WAS PROCEEDING F:xx-x
DOWN SALMON RIVER AT TERRIFIC SPEED ESTIMATED BY HIM AT ONE THOUSAND
MILES PER HOUR,
AND SONS DESCRIBED OBJECT To NEWSPAPERS AS
TWENTY FEET LONG, TEN FEET WIDE AND TEN FEET THICK, LIGHT SKY BLUE
IN COLOR AND ALSO OBSERVED FLAMES EMANATING FROM SIDES OF OBJECT,
AT TIME
AND SONS SAW OBJECT THEY ALL HEARD LOUD SWISH WHEN
OBJECT DISAPPEARED FRIM SIGHT,
CURRENT EFFORTS BEING MADE Tc INTER-
VIEW
AND SONS PURSUANT TO BUREAU BULLETIN FORTY TWO, SUB DIVISION
B, bATED JULY THIRTY NINETEEN FORTY SEVEN,
BUREAU WILL E PROMPTLY
AND FULLY INFORMED OF L ALL PERTINENT DEVELOPMENTS,
BANISTER 3b
END
PLS ACK AND HOLD
7-48 PM 0K FBI WA BW

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STAROARO .
Offce Memo
- vvum •
UNITED
}OVERNMENT
PROM
SUBJECT:
Direotor, FB
SAC, Boaton
FRAGENTS OBSERVED AT WEST RINDGE,
SECURITY (X
DATE:
HAMPSHIRE,
JULY 7,
1947
Referenoe iB made to Boston teletype to the Bureau dated July 18, 1947,
the original informant, has advi sed üat a spootographio
Dean
examination haa been oompleted of the metal partioleg referred to. They yere
determined to be of ordinary cast iron which had been subjected to a very
high degree of heat, n•ze heat caused scales to be formed on tho caat iron
which were originally thought to be of some metallic alloy.
The scientist exa.minlne the particles conoluded that if üey had come throtk;h
the air from any great alti tude in as small pieces as they found then
most of the heat would have been ulcen from them by üe time they reached
the ground and fires would not have resulted, It is noted they landod
approximately 700 feet fron a railroad track and inquiriea were conducted by
MIT to determine whether or not the particles could have been originally a
part of a liner in a gmke 8 tack or aome other part of the steam engine.
inquiriee resulted in positive information tuat the parti010B did not oome from
a train or locomotive, of exe four pieoeg examined revealed
that they had most likely been originally all part of one hollo• oylinder,
eight inohes in diameter and three Bixteenths of inch in thiokneee,
was felt that one piece falling from a great height would have 'till retained
a good part of its heat and probably yould have smashed when it hit the ground,
A soientiet, Thom —did not identify by name, recalled that oagt
iron oylindere of similar measurements had been used in New Mexico on
regearoh work on a gua ded minile project. However, thig unidentified BOie ist
did not so conolude to the exclusion of ail other possibi iitieg.
I is to note that the exanination at MIT was aotually oonducted
—who f urnished the Bogton Of floe with an informal report similar
in all details to that supplied by —above, The men at MIT
are gathering through friende all additional pieces of the original cylinde*
availablé, These "ill be turned over to the Boston Office, No f ur i*ior,.-•
exarnination iB being oonduoted by MIT and no effort i B •being made t
reoonatruot the original cylinder,
advioed to the oontrary by 15, 1947 'Office Wii I
deatroy them specimens, In the interim they be transmi tted to
Bureau on epeoifio Bureau inatruotiou.

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It ig noted that the original Bo ston teletype reflected that this inquiry
•ag being treated as "georet" matter at MIT.
as advi that
the comparatively small nunber of research soienCst8 at during the swnmer
are all cogn.izant or the incident and tho resulta of the research. However,
no publicity has been given and it i g not anticipated that any result.
The bureau's interest i 8 not known to the scientists at MIT. There hag been
no epeoulation üat a guided missile originating in a foreign land landed
in New Hampshire.
Ag indicated above, unless the Bureau requests specifically further investigative
action, thie case is being closed in the Boston Offioe.
BSG:md
100-20698

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TO
FROM
SUBJECT:
Mel, dum • UNITED
Dir ector, FBI
Atten: Assistant Director D. M. LADD
SAC, San Francisco
REPCRTS OF FLYn1G DXSCS
_ VAL
) GOVERNMENT
DATE: Sept zaber L, 1937
4.4
mclosed fo
fran Lt. Col.
dated August 27, 191+7,
Nflying gcsrt on
and Kelso, Washington.
DWK:E
62-2938
information are copies of two letters
of A—2, Hamilton Field, California,
th attachmarts reporting the sighting of
and result of investigation at

Page 44

GÅküAiini P
C2-•gqg
gp;oi
Nite BÜliding,
• 'and
åfi#
27 August 1947
I , tja , S ; Depactmont of Juotice,
om 422, San Francisco, California,
ob$eo±• have
8quaar6h"" Harmon
040 hbu*' 14 1947 the
ö at kaif"' ihapod and
lane, paned over
at an approxi•
Nd dinpp•ar.d
ob3cet po•oibiy

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Of I' i (20 of t.,he 8 ton t,
Hnmtltc•n r {old.
Chief' of fitAff, A-2
Cal fn i R
27 August 1947
33.3.5/1?08-1
Attachenrl
Gimunpry of Informntlon.
Special -ft men l, f.n FBI, U. 5.
Department of Justice,
room 4? P'
, finn Francisco, California,
I for information.
DONALD L.
colonel, CSC
AUG 30 1947

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333.5/1208-1
Senttle
in
m titach'!d su: ry f
Gumnnrv of Infnv•
i Cornia
2" Augu8t 1947
3. Deraartment of Just}øø,
, "our ånf'orrpntfon.
1, SPRI!iGÜR
LI, , Connol, GSC

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2,
*IP. ...'.-r.YICt
8 (eza A.kF æ)
kChora taoon, Kachinzton
i'A7
Final t.'i80tot Report
Comandins Officer
Air Reacue Servloo
Y..'aoDiii Field, norid.
xxssrox
a, At C400 rt5f
i 47, sep.vzcr.
dotaohnont thet a plane had boon •oen to orach and burn thirteen (13)
of KE12C,
S. ACTIOK
a, i 47, At 04tso pct. frcr O.
C, Clark, r.RL.s,o Bash. ,
Cha seer.' of tho crash
fff toon (IS) €0 Weaty of Y.E.ISC vleinit" of
CRC7F., 'fho Chtet o? •noifee r.n etrort.ff; f iy lov ovcr Cho
the- omoh and bura to oaat. The 02" of
airor•ft to bo in tho vtoinlty reve•iod that 3—25 ' •IS,G had departed
NCC,:; F I r.I..D at 0212 for HAMILTON FIELD. California, The navhor
reported CRO A mi i roon Nde visibility exoeptlonaily zood, tho
pilot fs UFT, C, DAVIDSOS' 'ho piano oarrfed three (S) additional
porucns, Ottioor •nd Baae PIO •orc noel f led, thio
e.taohment bectn ortant'tng a ground party of ban personnel to
that befr.r forsoa by the KELSO Chief of Poi 100.
0500
received tron KäKSO by APS *hat ground fog in the val lee," t.'.e coo:.e
of tho era 'h preveatinz a exouna party from ioootine t.h' piano, Since
no oomxuntoatton hod reeoived froz 8—25 iiSi6, it aa•umd it
the piano reported orachod, ARS C—47 pro—flichtod to trao•pors
8.rt%t t,roued pcrey to KELSO but a obeo" of tho oonattior.' thero
eoersd'tt advi to u oe a airorafte Ot the C•458 available,
one bolor,finr, •o A}'3 unoorvioea •tter a the othor, belont—
to MCC, roadtod oven though a reapongibl• off toer of that orr,au—
not pro to authorise tho Foe, at K SISO preve.ted
0700 PS'. Tho crouna party, by
CAP r, t, H, POP.SB.G.-RC. 00D8istcd or 'tx inoludinc a *dical toey.niaian
ar;d a photocrapher, At OCOO P", tho 'F SO Chiar of Poti 00 aottfied 4FS
a pa•eoacor of thc orachod airpi•no in offioo ar.•d had oonfiraoa
•cuc:•-

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$uSSoot' xon
1947
.3
s.
Tho be lief the omoh rae that or the unrepor%ea ...—250 "'ho
sr.t, r, L. of C-.
• .'.tTLC, uninSurod, but reportoa that
the erev Ch] at, t/ 54%, a fare hou•e near Ehe •oeno of
•he erash and insured. then led an aebuienoø to
utr.hTiS
•ho oubuquently taken to a ioeai hoopitai. At 0610 PSt an attoept
'88 Ede to Oiephone 89, S at JIAV.ILTC% F ISIS but aaaør reoeiuaj
boteyor, was known that P'.UILtC.N APS aware of tho inoldor.t ana
notify sq. B, PST ce#, LITTRELL departed C-45 for
REISO, At 0746 PST Cq a contacted by phono and 'Svoa a f laph roporte
090b r.or CAPT phonod he hnd pieced
in charco of Krzy proceed-int the oc the •rash,
Xo aerial search no necessary a • civilians the area kaew tho exact
ioeation of €ho enth •nd had reported find5ne one (l) body in the
cart, prepared 'o ny Set', and UCCHOR•J FIELD
for Ndlonl at.tention, arriving at 0945 P3te tho rarvtvoro •Cated that
they Bei loved pilot nor eo—pt pare chutoc.l Cron tho
the ceuse of •he Incident a E this t.i.%.e to bo a f Ira
in tho left enctee, CH' i n 8 t;FF he
b91ieved oiaosified docuee:it8 boar. aboard '3.0 pi«te; '
Inacnated to tako nooeasary procr.utf ona. aabuln.noc
t) o plun
•t ECCY.Okb oarryinc Cho two end took thca to the hoepitai.
XDt'Ä.pgatton rcyeaioa Chat the left antine had r Sre ib the pover
aectlon and fiaaoc und haa spread eo thc fil *lit dook Linoat
Lately, tho assietod tA?7 in hig ohc•t
paok abar.3caed Che plane at an e.tlNted aietWdo o? 10,000 ft
(thia fac± to bot Is not cor.8idered noooasuriiy roi•nr;•.),
helped pliot and 00-—22 lot attaoh Choir pael•.8 (c.ii
cornel had boon "far int tho haraeaa) and as ho the pizno asaro that
the VAR prepartnr, to follow, Tho pilot hr.' started 'eo leavo and,
to but roooiioozi0ii of •as part"iiy stondtnc hoidinc
Ch' chtroi •heoi rith his loft *AtayatS indioat'
propor prcoe4uroc haa been porCor*0d but that had
TAP Y thgt, becouoe
the •ntiro alEW8t Imod{atoly,
of tho full goon and rooå visibility, he leave the piano and
abio foiiov tho pione Co Che erounö and that ho 00 one 0100
bali out, Tho ehtp •as •woioped f Inzoe ana be5tn%Ln:, to •nart
hittin; the ground •aore uplodea •nd barned abou% one (i)
from 'hero ite, XAF7, landed, in a and not how to
his parachuto or tha kind, out him001C lecae fro•.'
tho Vith hie pook•t knife, cr,d Struzzlod and eventual I "
ground, receiving a Jolt on Sut unable te
how Cer he had fzilon, then foliovod a oow path for an estimated
(2) to a tam houte, arrivtnz e? tar
'J' '"3 Eoa z•.dhii
e MA
th9 planu ho turned arm oar tho plan' strike tht.• srouad, expiede
and burn, Ju•t before or at tine of iapaet he cr; ob.feot
at} "6 Citronm olear of the picne but did zot knoz• tt e. percon
•.',S aloo in a Crco, and after hl•eaif
or part of the piano,
hit bnrnc88, feli Co tho zround W.b.ero ir.9rad bae"..
eonooioucnooo •.ml on reooveriaz to the burning plane, t Lfty

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Sub3eot8
'kon Repart
O
4 Aucu,t 1947
S.
y.
(80) yord' nay. Flares vero goir.c off h' thought boDt Co loave ua
•oeno, Ee heara a •Crean ncarby c folio—o' uptil ho a houeo and
around ooo•panto, Soon M?? arrivgd tho houto and, beinc un-
insured, artven 'Ato then ho led an a3bui•nco to orreet transporta—
Mon o? UAY.YL%S to a kanzh2ie, siviilaas reaohcd tho ooeee of
the ensh Ehen Chey found one body, 0930 PSf, i from Sq
informed top mteriai the navigator' M.d to requeot
Coce*ndinc Cfftoer UCCHOF.D r i to expedite nii available information to
C.ffioor FIELD, cpt four (4)
zen aepart'd Ir.L,SO 0330 PST for •ooze of the crash,
they
by tho 3%/.tE •ho kzev the location of
— 122043 the ground party determined upon arrival
at the •ooze, that tvo (2) beates •ere tr. •ho Indteatfonc to
the bail'? that the ao-•piiot afire •hen the piano L",
before T)" pilot's remair.8 found In the wrechzoe Pro—
i lair.ary b}' CAP : PORSDÉP.C egoioted planes iert *lag
about one hundred tronty—fiT0 (125) ytrd' from eidoi.v port—
plc.:.e, tho *in; vas and torn
tlono or
o,' r e.t e).o loft he
or SOI tgd the rt ar two thirds
loose & rc:a i.-.bo•ra •eot.ic.••. •.»f virq.•,.
the • odee
yas The •nd w,brokon, rao
at*eron undanag•d but tho flap cee•.ion oru'hed, ieadin' to Ch'
belief that tho ssotion. Fro. the.e {adleotioa•
It t a the ripped froe the airplane Suet after
aigneonea the piano, tho Qin thus preveated the restølnc
orc* r.embero fron bat it out although thc Enve been in tö.e
bateke . A civiliar.8 •ere {n the area CAD t FORSBERG arrivea
ene he took preo•utt0D' to prevent thea from disturbiez the
At pcr LITTRELL Crt RICE, C, , to KELSO, An
at spatobed frt• MCCHORD PIELD, thoz at KELSO, aaa ns to tho coene
tho bodies rooovøred and trans—
of by sure P0L1cr
ported in •h' to MCCHORD PIZD, CAPT Lltrnr.tt, "turned to
Fl EID •hero camping equipment be dropped to the
ground party. CAP f LITTRELL, mae a guooee•ful drop •t dusk by
on a fire.
the cround party cet up samp ot vreo'oze to
as tusra end to further Cho following day, th*Y
reifevea ot respor.eibiiity of eli reoov•rea by a CIC ator.t •ho
had Arrivad about 1800 P5t,
b. 2 Auc 47, the erouna party at the •oeno of Che crash
lio aoriai aouvßy.
offloi•i •eourinc. ef the tnoldont,
S Aut 47. "CC3Ö.t4,D P IF.IX' Operations Off toer departed at 1000
inve•eleate aootder.t •nd €0 relievo CAP r Foy 33420, •ho roturzed
1600 Per,
Inotdont

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SabJeott Fin•i magnon Report
.6, StAt18t1CU
a, actrvxrr
4 lutes: iC47
(i) Total san hours by ARS Personnol ia field
(2) Total un b' ot.h€r Army Parconr:oi
(3) total houro by 0M tian porsonnel (Ost) IGO
(4) P.o. ef *2.2108 driver. any
(i) total '*oe ur ties r iown
(2) hours by o Irerc:t
a. i'ORCMSES
a. Cooperation reoeiv•a from ail civilian ac,eaoi-• concerned
•s oomplet' and
20B?..qr H.
Captain, ?.ir Corna

Page 51

aza
Eats,
FOR mtTSICATION: or
OCD t
royal" or
cydiable
u
Dan
-o
• e.' etret
fee uo
periea ot
—tier La
ULD SPRI
, osc
atJG SO -

Page 52

1)
1. Curter of 81 AT,
an, telephor,od Lt Pror:i, CiC
quarters Pourih Fore, end In Khai he, Capo
•r rived in Co purported flytnc 'line
em 47 e
re. an' a
rr.olosure and r.noioau•re e, the natan
Ot the
ur ot•rxeer rr0Y' pamouo
en receipt of Foureh Bir Yoro.
Che i ranoLse€' Ott goe iO Ohosk Chic•r.o
Vent'.'re
by the
Of Che Chtcer.c Bureau had
or Vo V•a80rq
2, Cepe Vormerd Wield
thry fron u" t forms •o otvliian {n
they t.T.)N a
•m c {n 4, Itr ('r Pii• .
of
47,
to te.t'.*d.gr, RtChora
t ! an eon
2n the rop tor e of eondb.aettne an n
and Intervtev
r lea,
In hotel the ntnthrop teear•, in tho
It tßbn af oonvornuon, tho
€0 Ohat Lt
obteqnø«i fro '
at na unuentiCied •beta"'
tho
i 'en: ns; arec
•r.,t fron e.s htc
erabcnrd eartcn the rear of Llw ikZS
took In the - any troy. Nrotn or C•pt
tho "niiorinc t .tx•rioc• win n iated 0'
7'nSor Gender ao by Lt
proeceetnt, of an
fly t t coo nut ot he aloud' end •f rolod "lox
of BOO rut. The•o
• , P.X.G,
No.
110

Page 53

it
flat E F •d sLniler to a defiatnd *hay —re
100 et 26 ft ot opening the
tho had IraMr had •quart
los, d K 090 and Croo he ooe
propt! 'Kene Of these dieu tppeared to Aar,
on•a droppnå dorn oton to •h'
nver and i e, of the obuff at ptot•xrea Ineienn
or ftc•r, in etnyvany Df resor
bnei oro dooEd 9 n hmrbor oa 6 4?'
t, hut arn raii previously
e.'at?) of print •na an.ß or•üad by tho natherø •
a vary u tn ana C•enh.r
opt!.ien Cheat o? ob$sto
f rc.nt c 'd
of dropped 'he flytnR dioe hed hit boat."
ur'. u bro. fcred•ok the —Nn
area" T. coated v t th 'f Ed
weaV.•or oracko that RO"). • •a'.t•b one Io
evidenq Ch'* areo at '0 s
Po B..pooood to h' toutvi the •be.t h'
Cept a the ioo(dent NO
Ot •tm InoldOAt, a
ee"irrea.
an R —aner aa Ch'
o•ættene, In broad Of an Ot
and einr2y •i thin
e h,fee•. npp•artrr over {.he Har Sore
ne-r•pleso of Vie he up
Qi tre.end or 't t.h' ot Chieacø on
t'ø ' ha•ee reporte
2 R thie that,
oaren• t t rot.tr-h vereitv or GhtoAR0ö
*r•.•• about
returnnd *aChora
81
ihe or 'Icar
tar a e.o
40
O 'W noun ärätil•u
in of L•.Wor
Atreu of
ran tdor •
P Y No. i IO

Page 54

€onbet •i eher
deporteet
nportunlt>.• or
rnoord •hcü. by by ,
F Loid for rourd•
Seattle FBI tr:diong
'ßh tm tnotdenec øf af uniform
propore.yo i at Darold
tn quo'tton, 0' , 'trold inhi nf and .W
hed
•nd hold n n tho
41, w.!c et Ebe
ater•d th u
Sate,
1042 ho 'Oh CrintNl .
ot 'ton t and preg) Oti teohntoLA1'
Pst t h. to en en enlioted Taan
r In iid5 he nn KNt2ua•.toa
awd ot
chnok tho taeon no
•hioh hane
on
e adde•ea
'10 er be undertahn en
Air reroo
tn oc tho hy Yre
b•• to ret Poaorv• and f•lyinr,
unrøilahle
tf{qer.
i, iir
thotoatAL, telegram r
to 9äw Sub' lance,
Final Air Rceou•
ento
('rip an,
an

Page 55

duly 22,
ear •
yoü'd *Ike to
y tach to havp your
Conal ' o or. et9,; as i
iked. tifo
d ou•e åådd t:'ö because
jtg i hig eh n the •expert8'
t You seem to
a*6dhd a and érip to Taoomc ,
AbhingCod i e; i id be pay expenses
u.ha
omer of the
éthå* eöaaen, on a
de tiiirm brt' six one in
üS1di ih stuff 'h' oh
åihd Lid iaaded on the
åa%, fh/y ieae me O 'ö%loh Chi' ü hai failed to
åIyiG'J ri of the DtUFf that
i Aded 'the*e , ab 'Cy éheS' And t •ant.
{eboåy C 1 Hhd 81.1b {f these boys are
the ui '(nd' u*bl otiid ope you will.
'i ' business.
:9éå'd ové éhl"'
yours i

Page 56

' ELDR
ÅkFtöL' Eb&' 48 TAcöKh FLYING
PR'EsÉåT {c
;lMfEk dlJÅsTÉD youk HERE
-sÅöU l,

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[photograph: degraded print of rough metallic or slag-like fragments, apparently stacked, with a small oval object at left; no caption legible]

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[photograph: degraded print of a large irregular, rough-textured fragment or fused mass of material; partial stamp at bottom, possibly "CONFIDENTIAL" ([illegible]AL visible)]

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[photograph, heavily degraded: two fragments of a dark, fibrous or layered material (possibly wood, bark or metal debris) with a small oval object between them; stamp at bottom partly legible, possibly "CONFIDENTIAL"]

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[photograph, heavily degraded: a single crumpled, irregular fragment of material, one corner showing a mesh or woven texture; no legible text]

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[photograph, heavily degraded: two large fragments of dark layered or grooved material with a small oval object between them and a pair of tweezers or pointed tool at the bottom; no legible text]

Page 62

STANOARD
Offce Mems Aum
FROM
SUBJECT;
Director, FBI
MC, San Francisco
o
ynlG DISCS
UNITED
OVERNMENT
DATE: Sept aber 4, 7
SPECIAL DZIVmy
Enclosed is a copy of a letter dated August 25, 19147, with
aetachment frm Lt. Col
' fir. L
Califomia. Eval thout) 01,
have read some of his in a newspaper, Col, believes
that Mr.
daould be interviewed in this matter.
In accordance with Bureau Bulletin No. 1+2, dated Jul 30,
1947, Porta-and is requested to exhaustively Mr.
Oregon, regarding his
alleged sighting of a "flying disc" on June 2.1* , 1947. Copies of
the result of this interview &lould be furnished the San Francisco
Field Office for distribution to the 6th Amy Intelliga"ce.
2
62-2938
cc Portland
4) - AMSD
EP 23

Page 63

PORTIA.'.'V
ORSCO!I ,
Au mast 20th 1947
Lt. Col. Donald L, Springer, Assistant Staff
SRK the portland panor a short tima ato to
an article in regards to the so called flyinr. dise havin: any basis
I car. sav on. a
of fac±,
on Junc 24th the day
formation of flyinr_ disc.
and 7.•0:-. in tho hdams district
of 30ise Idaho elains he saw a
the sane fly in; obioet3 at about
the time. *ievint•, a teluseopo with mo at the time I can agure you
they are reel and notinp like them I ever saw before they did not oase
verry hiEh over where I we s at the the time, piobly 1000 ft.
they were 2eund 30 foot In dimater taper ina to a point in
I did not
the heed end in an oval 8.haoe. with a brif,ht top surface,
Jut there was an object in
hear any noise as you would fror.- a plane.
the end looked like a hend of a clock shifting* from 5
ide to
•ere soeed as far as i know see.med to be
side like a bir magenet.
xreater .than nv-thin.- I evor saw. last voiw I rot of thc ob.iects they
•a-ere stand ine on edge Bank inr in a Cloud,
Yours kesnetfully
Lt. volonei,

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Fodernl
wn.e pu ) I.fetzed i,hfo
Cpliforni.a
2b 1947
Vo pert •nnnt of Justlee
422, Snn Frenc..teco,
Otter from
o Inri betwogn
h pogo i b.' .HI" thet
in nowr.napers when
in!.ond to invest f Incident.

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[section divider, handwritten: "UFO SECTION 4"]

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THE DIRECTV*
D. u. LADD
FROM
SUBJECT:
Office Men
DJL:FA
I'D
UNITED
}OVERNMENT
Toxaoo
Olav In
Harbo
You Dill recc22 that A' r. — advised
the Bureau of a letter znhich Wal ter å'inchell had received
from an individual in Los Angeles indiga$ing that he had
seen a flying saucer leave the ground within his v i eto and
Rooa
Ouay
which Zetter he theorized that this might have been a landing,
from anouher planet.
The Los Angeles Office was re, uested to IDC te and
interview the writer of this letter,
Street, Los Angeles 7, Cal i forni a.
7C
It would appear, ther.efo re,
'-oas unproductive.
to loca
that this may have been a prank.
You may desire to advise Ur — that there is no
such :.erson at the address given inasmuch as he indicated that
. Winchell intended to do a column on this le•tter.

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Direc tor,
Dear Sir:
ci ßttrratl of 'A'twesfigation
Mtlitrh Statcg ncparttltct't of 3113tiee
June 8, 1949
FBI
RE: FIXING DISCS
Refer Phoenix letter to Bureau, dated September 9, 191+7,
captioned, RDORTS OF FLYING DISCS. ror the
and photographing Of
object which was considered• by the Air Force of significance frau a
security standpoint,
June 7,
OSI renresent.nt.{v.
Phoenix, Arizona, called at this office, advising that he had been
rnquested by his superiors in San Francisco to obtain detailed
formation concerning this interview 'ince apparent-ly, has.
requegted the Air Force to return the photographs'S'
*len questioned by hie superiors concerning the
matter, • stated his recollection was "hazy•v on the natter, OSI is
amdous to Becure the substan e of infomatlon in the Phoenix f ile
furnished the substanee of L
conceming thib matter, Mr
the intervlev, as get forth in letter of reference and he has now
requested that he be furnished with a blind maorandtn setting forth
this infomation In detail in order that he may make it available to
the 051 at San Francisco.
A manorandtrn setting forth this infomation has been pre—
by this office and i 8 attached hereto. Tne Bureau is requested
to advise if such manopandtm chouidümade avail Ple OSÆ_,
Z/.o-a.-.o...«.ß
Lor
SAC
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SAC,
Director, FBI
FLYING DISCS
Rouriet June e, 1949, eapt10Eå "Flying
June 30, 1949
It believed that apparing an the fl.rat line ot your
refer•rmd letter to the Breau 18 Incorrect. Cuplete details concerning the
catter roferr•d to In your referenced cæunlcatlon appear an a letter from
your office dated eptenbar 1947, not Septeüar 9, 1947,
Purguant to yot& Nquest, you are granted authority to the
attached blind mmorandua, yas fonarded to the bareau •Ith your refererwed
repreeontatavo, Fhoenix,
letter tor approval, to
Arizoaa.
Attaehzrl€¯
EHN:EFF
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
MAILED 1 S
T' is. Ron
k JUL
1 1949 P.M.
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'ORE
Offce Memoiand
•ro
FROM
SO BJ E :
INFatxm10N
C)
FLYING DISCS
Purpose
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
DATE:
June 30, 1949
Rieboi.•
Your approval is requested in order that the attached letter and
can be forwarded to the hoer-tix Office, authorizing that office to
furnish the attached memorandum to
OSI representative,
Phoenix, Arizona.
Backgroa.md
was Jointly interviewed by Special
In July 1947,
Agene (Bureau gent) and , representative
1 ton Field, Call fornia, frie purpose of the interviey was to secure f Nn
from
• nformation and photographs of a flying disc, which been sighted
ur,
and by Rhodee.
•me complete Nsu.lts of the interview and subsequent events are contained
in the attached subL1tted by the hoerd.x Office,
Ur•— OSI representative at Hoenix, Arizona, has requested
the Phoenix Office to furnish him complete facts to this Interview, which
are to be subsequently forsyarded to the CI Office at San Francisco. According to
to above, has been questioned concerning matter
by his superiors and he has advised them that his recollection "hazy" on the
Atter, According to— has aAkrent,Iy now requested the Air
Force to return the Which were previously obtained fræ him.
Recownendatl. on
It is recanmended that the Phoenix Office be advised that the menm•andum
attached be forwarded by them to ur,
Arizona,
Attachænts
EHM:EFF
23 JUL 201940
Fl-6R
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FORM en.
Offce Memorand
UNITED STALES GOVERNMENT
2
DATE:
July 21, 1949
FROM
SUBJECT:
DnECTOR,
NTW
PLYING DISCS AND SAUCERS
MISCELLÆEOUS INFORMATIai1 CONCERNING
For the information, several citizens in the community of
Alexandria, Louisiana, have recently reportedly seen flying discs. The Alexan—
dria, Louisiana daily paper has carried nuærous articles concerning this.
At a recent meeting of the Young Meng B*si.nesg Club in Alexandria,
a member suggested that since Alexandria, Louisiana Is knorm a convention city,
the club should try pmmoting a convention of flying saucer seers, This particu—
lar coment appeared in the Alexandria paper and was picked up by the AP lines,
Special Agent
a member of the Young Mens Businese Club, advised
that since the AP release, they have received a
large number of requests regarding the convention of flying saucer seers from
parts of the United States. —states that the interest of tkE people
is evidenced by their inquiries about convention particulars, stating they are
flying saucer seers and want to attend such a convention.
'his gentleman further advised üat in view of the volume of inquiries
coming in•, it appears that the YEC have to h.ire an employee to handle ail
the correspondence. It might be rnted that he advised a representative of tl'*
Air Force from Barksdale Field, Louisiana, has inquired u to plans of a flying
saucer convention, stating that they are interested in furnishing observer it
such a convention •ere held.
This information is furnished the Aareau, as it is possible such
an enterprise azy cause people to falsify that they have sea-a flying discs or fly—
ing saucers. Such falsifications might be 80 that they might attend such a
convention or become official delegates thereto.
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.:aAHA
U. S. or JOGI ICE
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION
TELETYPE
Coo:•. .
pm CST
URGENT
FLYING DISCS, INFORMATION CONCERNING,
WHILE ON VACATION
AT LAKE OF THE WOODS, NEAR KENORA, ONTARIO, CANADA, SA
—OBSERVED UNCONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT RESEMBLING DISC J
HE HAS FURNISHED FULL INFORMATION CONCERNING SAME TO U.S. UR
FORCE INTELLIGENCE, FORT CROCK, NEBRASKA, AND SANE LILL NOT BE
REPORTED TO THE BUREAU UNLESS ADVISED TO THE CONTRARY.
END
ACK
PLS
DALTON
31 JUL 19 1949
WASH DC EJC

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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
THIS CASE ORIG'NATED AT
Rm-RT AT
PHILADP,IPHIA, PA.
U SUBJ.-,
PHIIADFXHIA, PENNSYLVANIA
DATE WHEN
6-15-49
••ct<f1RE, SCRANTON
COMPLAINAYI'
PERIOD FOR
WHICH MAO'
5-20-49
62-2542 VFH
FILE NO.
næORT MAD' •y
CHARACTER oe CASS
INFCO.IATION
ash residue to
SYNOPSIS OF FACTS:
Fire Ma.f•shalts Office, Philadelphia • Pa.
which nede chemical analysis.
DETAILS :
opinion that fire Aay have been caused by
military flare flying saucer",
This investigatim is predi cated upon a letter
from Office Of
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, dated May 19, 1949,
advising that ashes had been received from
purportedly from a fire whi&i hæ:l continued to barn for twelve
hærs. A chemi cal analysis of the ashes been requested. The
Office noted that— had at one time wa•ked for typ Erergy
Com:nåssia'l,
advised there
been received through the Nil April 21, 1949, an ash sample with a re—
quest for analysis, In the letter of transmittal, —•had pointed cut
that the fire had continued to burn twelve hours after water håd fi.rst been
applied, The original letter of transmitta.l was examined and reflected that,
an ±ject had entered the roof of the building, caused an explosim, ard
peQ1e oat
residence
the time
the Atcmic
ARROVCD AND
FORWARDED:
of bed.
said he atterpted to locate his
but had beed unsu essful. He added that at
nad commented that
had been enployed b
was then requested by letter to appear
Energy Con•nissim.
DO NOT WRIT* IN
ooe• oe RÄRT
C Burea.l
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advised that he had interviewed
abs
—at the time he cane to the office since
Y} e said that he then learned for the first time that the fire
at the time.
in question had taken place near Scranton, Pennsylvania and .had _op_ß-Z'Eea._
to withdraw
about six. This catsed the
from the case on a cpestiori*oß jurisdiction and —was advised that
any further action on his part should be referred to State Police
authorities.
At' the sane time, — furnished •—ith the results
the ash -submitted, arui analysis
of the analysis which had been made
Olernica.l Laboratory, Rom
had been made by
875, City Hall, This report reflected that the ash cmtained V.a.€.nesium,
Aluminum, Iron, ard Calcium in the form of silicates, sulphur and carUonatese
the
—was interviewed at his place of business,
Broad Street and Girard Averme, Philadellhia,
s time he advised that he had received t2E saap]e
Pennsylvania. At
Yi4.rne Cmnty, •Pennsyl—
ash from a friend,
vania, through the mail; .He said that Lake Ariel is about one mile smth
of Sa-lth Canaan, near Scranton, Pennsylvania. He stated that
hmase had burned abaat six months ago, that the fire had occurred at night,
during e storm and that a large ±ject had stmck the roof ard ignited the
houze Which had burned to thc ground in less than an hm.r.
He said that he had not been presen during the fire bit that
at the ti.æ a sunple
these details had been by letter fran
of the ash was forwarded for analysis. He said that he was of the persoæl
opinion that the ash might be a part of a military flare or a "flyirc saucer",
He pointed out that he has been advised by associates in the
-engineering field tiEt one of the of some types of flares
is thø fact that they burn for a considerable period. He stated that the
mass of the ash resi.due had remained i guited for a period of twelve hours.
He also stated that he did not think there had been an explosion but t„at a
1 a-ld noise. had probably been caused by Üle vacuum created as nuissile
or object s truck the roof, He added that there remai.ns a quanfity of the
ash, to one bushel, at— prendses at Lake Ariel,
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b.
PH 62-2542
adv' sed that he had been ecployed by the Atomic
mergy Commission at Oak Ridge until 1943. He was entirely rational. He
discounted the theory that a portion of a meteor struck the hmse on
the basis of the chemical analysis made by City Chanical
advised that at the sup.zestim of the City
authorities, he had written to— and suggested that any further in—
quiries be directed to the State Police.
The file of the Philadelphia Office reflect that the records
Naturalization Service were negative to an inquiry concern—
of Irrnigration
The files of this
ing
Joc
y letter received Augmst 14, 1947,
office likewise reflect that
requested •of this office the identity of a powder or dust used to catch
thieves.
Inasmch as there indicated within the Bureau 's
- misdiction, there is no further investigation being conducted in this
laatter. However, the ash residue obtained from the
is beint forwarded to the Bureau Laboratory for any interest or study the
laboratory may desire to conduct relative to flares or in camection
the posoibility of the presence of "flying saucers".
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